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Will I be ok with this teaching schedule?
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blindsheep



Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: Will I be ok with this teaching schedule? Reply with quote

I have a job offer on the table that's in Jeonju from 1-7:30 M-F, with 7x40 minute classes. Just wondering what people think of this? Will I be able to handle it ok, will I be too stressed out? Also in the contact it mentions the following:

9.2 In the event that the employee is dismissed, or in the event that the employee voluntarily resigns prior to the termination of the term or this agreement, employer will pay salary due up to the date of termination. Employer will not pay the cost of return transportation to point of departure for employee, nor will employer pay any severance payment. Further, employer will be entitled to withhold an amount less than or equivalent to, but not exceeding, the cost of relocation allowance given on arrival in Korea and the cost of air fare provided for travel to Korea.


It seems like most contracts state you don't have to pay back the return airfare after six months... Should I be getting this written in to it?


Finally... there doesn't seem to be any provision for sick days... only emergency deaths? Other contracts I've seen seem to all give 3 sick days... Is this something else I should attempt to have written in, or am I just misinterpreting the contract:

6.1 Employee will be entitled to observe public holidays and receive 10 vacation days during the contract term according to the yearly schedule provided by employer before the commencement of the year to which the schedule refers. September 8t, 2003 is to be included in the abovementioned vacation days

6.2 Absence from Duties: Salary is not maintained when employee is absent from teaching duties.


6.3Emergency Leave: Employee will be eligible to receive up to six (6) days of paid emergency leave in the event of death or serious illness in employee's immediate family, only when all necessary documents are provided. Such emergency leave will be granted at the sole discretion of employer.



Any opinions or advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.
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blindsheep



Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should include its teaching 6-13 year olds, there aren't any kindergarden classes after 3pm.
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Mr. Literal



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the pay?
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blindsheep



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.9 million won a month
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's on the rough side of things
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya yuck.
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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of things I'd think about:

1. Is the vacation paid? The contract seems to say if you are absent you will not be paid. It is normal that vacation IS paid.

2. Will you get to choose your vacation days? Can you have 5 consecutive days off? Find out in advance, or you might end up having to take one here, one there, and no chance for a real break.

3. You should have sick days in your contract.

4. The dismissal clause is disturbing. He can fire you without notice, make you pay back airfare and relocation costs. This is not cool. Most contracts state a 30-day notice and have that last month paid the same as others (not at a reduced amount). I would make sure (if you're taking the job) to have this whole clause state, "Within the first 6 months, and with 30 days' notice." Afterwards, I'd put in, "After the first 6 months, the employee and employer shall still give 30-days' notice, but the employee shall not be required to pay back his plane ticket. However, the employer will not be required to pay the return flight home or the severance."

That's about all I can think of right now. Good luck! Very Happy

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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man 7 classes a day is going to make your eyes pop out and your head start to wobble. That's way too much. I teach 3-5/day at a hagwon for the same pay/no taxes.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Block shift ending at 7:30? As long as it doesn't require unpaid prep time before or afterwards every day, and you can get sick days, I'd say that's a decent first-year contract.

Osangrl and Shawner have unusually sweet deals, I think you'd be crazy to think that's the norm.
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shawner88



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But even the schools I considered hell I taught only 6/day. That's even too much. But yeah, I learned the ropes and what to look for and how to negotiate since then. You'll be surprised how much a school will deal for you to sign on. I just keep saying no, until finally they accept what I ask for, i.e no more than 25 hours/week, pay 2xs a month, etc.
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blindsheep



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta love the curve balls... There was some confusion and the director says is actually 8x40 each day... From the sounds of things this is simply too much for maintanance of sanity.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Will I be ok with this teaching schedule? Reply with quote

blindsheep wrote:

6.1 Employee will be entitled to observe public holidays and receive 10 vacation days during the contract term according to the yearly schedule provided by employer before the commencement of the year to which the schedule refers. September 8t, 2003 is to be included in the abovementioned vacation days




Why is a date from LAST year being included in your vacation dates for this year?
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 classes a day?

Hahahah!

Half of that is about right, five should be the max.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IconsFanatic wrote:
8 classes a day?

Hahahah!

Half of that is about right, five should be the max.


5X40min classes per day equals 66 hours per month.

You would have to be some negotiater to get a 66 hour per month, 2.0 million, contract as a first-timer in Korea.

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I just keep saying no, until finally they accept what I ask for, i.e no more than 25 hours/week, pay 2xs a month, etc.


Again, 25 hours a week, is 100 hours a month which adds up to approx. 7 or 8 classes per day.

Any first-timer would be very lucky or have a very generous boss to get a 100 hour per month contract. Even then you're working 7 or 8 classes per day. Korean Hagwons are always hard work unless the schools not doing too well and can't fill up your schedule.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Will I be ok with this teaching schedule? Reply with quote

blindsheep wrote:
It seems like most contracts state you don't have to pay back the return airfare after six months... Should I be getting this written in to it?


I'd say if you stay for 6 months it's reasonable that they re-imburse you for a one way ticket. If you stay for a year they pay the return.
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