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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itaewon was different. Can remember going to a restaurant sing a long type place and all of us (from same Hogwon) getting a W2000 pork steak. never quite figured out why such a giveaway price. Got my first introduction to those barbershop laces as well. Actually went into one to get a haircut late at night. It was round the corner from where we all lived. The guy gives me a haircut, and then an older woman comes in and strips off around the corner and climbs under some covers naked with another female employee at the place. I could see them rolling around under the covers, but after getting my haircut the dood ushers me out kinda quickly.

People (females)used to sidle up to you a lot when you were using public transportation for English conversation lessons as well. Sometimes they actually wanted to pay or to go to a movie usually at their expense as a prelude to the lessons. Ended up keeping company with two ladies for the socialising afterwards on one occasion. For the life of me when ever i wanted to practice my Korean on them they would brush me off. Enjoyed their company anyway. One was married, and reasonably attractive. I mistakenly called her up once, and the husband happened to be listening in. She was heartbroken next time I saw her. Funny as hell. She felt as though our meeting which was all above board was a betrayal of her blah blah blah to him.

As far as I rememmber Wonderland and ECC were the only English academys around, then all of a sudden the government deregulated the franchise thing and they started popping up all over the place
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allovertheplace



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldnt call myself an old timer by any means but nobody has mentioned things related to working conditions.
Last year new visa restrictions made getting here a big pain, While I havnt seen changes as visible as some of you guys, being here for that was a big shock. All of a sudden we became viewed as potential criminals and largely treated as such. Ive also noticed something-lack of raises. With all these new hoops to jump through salaries have remained stagnant.
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Shiktang



Joined: 10 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The annual student demonstrations have stopped. Used to be one every year. Molotov cocktails, and hijacked trains and all. Tear gas was hell. Some policeman would drop a canister about 150 meters away and your eyes still stung.

Don't know why they had the demonstrations. Maybe it was a carry over from the times when student demonstrations actually made a difference in government policy.
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catchshime



Joined: 25 Jun 2009
Location: "I am not born for one corner; the whole world is my native land."

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewok wrote:
They are still peasants. Peasants with GPS-DMB-MMS- Videocalling phones, but still peasants.


"Peasants?" So what does that make you, wide-eyed, pale skinned, royalty? Nobility perhaps?

The 'people' (more like cyber-personas stuck in a shell) on this forum never cease to disappoint. The same goes for the overwhelming number of racist/ignorant/degrading/demeaning/intolerant posts I find anew daily, whether they are nuanced at all or not.

So much for TOS.
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Bronski



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catchshime wrote:
ewok wrote:
They are still peasants. Peasants with GPS-DMB-MMS- Videocalling phones, but still peasants.


"Peasants?" So what does that make you, wide-eyed, pale skinned, royalty? Nobility perhaps?

The 'people' (more like cyber-personas stuck in a shell) on this forum never cease to disappoint. The same goes for the overwhelming number of racist/ignorant/degrading/demeaning/intolerant posts I find anew daily, whether they are nuanced at all or not.

So much for TOS.


Ah, I remember this thread. Thanks for the bump!
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There used to be a beer named Nex. It was sold in the conveniece stores alongside Hite and Cass.

EPIK used to be called Koretta. You could only get the job through your embassy. This was the only public school gigs back then and you would be interveived at your embassy. Koretta teachers got paid in American dollars and got the same vacation scedule as Korean teachers. The Korean teachers complained about this. So the supervisers decided the create workshops for Korean teachers hosted by Foreign teachers. Eventially Koretta was changed to Epik and they started paying in won and giving out eleven month contracts to get out of paying severance pay.

Gyounggi do province used to be spelt with a K. They were under the Epik program. They lost most of their teachers in the IMF crisis. Then they sent the remainder of their teachers to a teacher training center near Pyoungteck. This was really unpopular with the teachers

There were tons of really sleazy recruiters like Mike Oh of Bok Ji corporation who used to ask for a 200$ payment and a bottle of whisky. for their service.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! I interviewed with Mike Oh!
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backhand



Joined: 17 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is best country with best people.


No peasants, but highest IQ people.

Highest IQ with no falsifified research about cloning.

You understand?
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i



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What ever happened to Mike Oh of Bok Ji? I had actually forgotten his name. I came here for my first round in 94 and he picked me up. Thought the $200 would come out of my pay. I had $197 on me. He asked for it when I got in his car. He said I need to find $3 more. So a guy who was in the car from NZ gave it to me. Then Mike asked for his Cognac. Told him I thought he was kidding. He assured me it was no joke as all the other teachers he picked up that night brought it. What a slime ball. But he must have made a lot of money.
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wrote:
What ever happened to Mike Oh of Bok Ji? I had actually forgotten his name. I came here for my first round in 94 and he picked me up. Thought the $200 would come out of my pay. I had $197 on me. He asked for it when I got in his car. He said I need to find $3 more. So a guy who was in the car from NZ gave it to me. Then Mike asked for his Cognac. Told him I thought he was kidding. He assured me it was no joke as all the other teachers he picked up that night brought it. What a slime ball. But he must have made a lot of money.



Mike Oh recruited a LOT of Canadians. My roomie back in 95 was picked up at the airport by that snake. I remember sitting on the couch of my apartment when the snake walked in. He almost didn't take off his shoes - until I told him to...that's just a sampling of how little respect he showed westerners. I asked him to leave after ten minutes because I couldn't stand his attitude. My roomie had to pay him more than 200 bucks. Can't remember how much, I think it was half of his first paycheck. When he found out that I and most other people he met never had to pay anything, he complained to our boss, so she covered the payment.
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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To have a teacher directly pay a recruiter for placing him or her in a position is the most ridiculously unprofessional, unethical conduct a recruiting or consulting company can engage in. Any professional or established consultancy agency negotiates all reinbursements with the client / employer.

No one should have any right to complain about the so called 'quality' of English teachers in Korea if such a practice is, or has been, endorsed (and I know it has).
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bottle of Cognac?? That's just taking the piss
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lotto_roaster



Joined: 27 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otus wrote:
To have a teacher directly pay a recruiter for placing him or her in a position is the most ridiculously unprofessional, unethical conduct a recruiting or consulting company can engage in. Any professional or established consultancy agency negotiates all reinbursements with the client / employer.

No one should have any right to complain about the so called 'quality' of English teachers in Korea if such a practice is, or has been, endorsed (and I know it has).


chilax dude you have a good profession so don't be like them
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

circa 2005 I used to get laid a lot more.

This could be due to a subtle increase in my waist and a subtle decrease in my hairline, but mostly it's due to the fact that the numbers of foriegn guys working in Seoul now are way higher than they were pre 2005.

Used to go to Gekkos / Helios / wherever and plenty of available women but now it's like 5 western guys to every girl. And that sucks.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Home Plus has made shopping a hell of a lot better. Carrafour (pre-Home Plus) had one little 1/4 aisle of insanely priced imported stuff. Now I go to HP and all Tesco brand stuff, which there is a ton of, is so cheap. Whole wheat pasta 1,800, cereal 3,400 won, ground coffee, beer, on and on.

Thank the gods for Home Plus. I'd also say having subways in so many cities is pretty great.

One thing that hasn't changed: universal ignorance about tail-gating whilst driving, seatbelts, and baby seats. I give them another 30 years to get up to speed on those things.
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