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nguyendtu02
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: Korean scholarships in U.S. |
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| Do you guys know any reputable organizations which offer U.S. citizens scholarships to study in Korea? I am also very much considering in teaching ESL in Korea. any reputable organizations that i can apply to? |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Ya, lol, I saw you were responding to some pretty dead posts, trying to get to 25? Ya, we've all been there.
I know that do have some scholarships, but I don't know any of the details. Sorry about that.
Also, if you want to teach in Korea, be prepared for a lot of crap and a long wait. While it's not impossible, Asian-Americans who aren't Korean aren't very high on the list for jobs. That being said, it's not impossible and if you keep at it, you'll find a job. But you can't do both at the same time.
It's either a student visa or a working visa. If you get a working visa, you can study in your spare time (no scholarship and no university classes, no time) but if you get a student visa, no working allowed.
There's a few larger recruiting agencies, but there are no guarantees. Even if it's the best recruiter in the world, the school might still suck. I'll PM if you want more details. You can't message yet, but I think you can reply if someone hits you up first. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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There is a NIIED program (National Institute for International Economic Development) which is run by some branch of the Korean government.
I tried applying to this program, which will pay full tuition/insurance/airfare, and give a monthly stipend of 900,000 - 1,000,000 Korean won to the recipients.
The program is designed to foster international exchange and global understanding( in Humanities fields) However, as I was told when I sent an email inquiring about the program to the Korean consulate in America, that in the case of the US, only applicants of "Korean decent" can be considered for the program.
It seemed strange to me that of all the countries participating in the program, the most ethnically diverse country of them all would have a policy to only recruit people of Korean decent to participate in a program which has the mission statement to foster international communication and understanding with Koreans.
However, if you have some Korean decent,(only in the case of the US) I believe this NIIED scholarship is the best one out there.
http://seekscholarship.com/sch/category/korea/
Here is a link to a few scholarship options. From my own experience it is somewhat difficult to get a scholarship like this being from the US. Many government and private organization scholarships are for particular fields, or for students from particular blocks of countries (Asian countries for example)
Most universities will offer you at least some form of scholarship (typically 50% of tuition or better) If you don't find what you like in the list on the link or through other google searches, try checking out the website of a school you are interested in studying at to see what scholarships they may offer.(nearly all offer 50% to foreign students) Also keep in mind that is it not completely unheard of for a school to not grant you a "formal" scholarship but rather just give you a "special" one because they desire to have an American at their university. Having some contact with an administration officer and letting them know your interest in attending and getting as scholarship may go a long way to getting you something that is not "officially" on their web page or in their brochures.
If you have a student visa (D-2) you are legally allowed to work 20 hours per week, and I actually just confirmed this week with a trip to the immigration office that despite what I have always thought, you can LEGALLY teach English on a D-2 visa providing you keep it under 20 hours a week. No background check, no drug tests, no document screening..just fill in the form from immigration, get a note from your professor with permission, and pay 30,000 won. A hagwon may require those things from you, but it is not necessary to do that when you already have a D-2 visa, but just applying for permission to work.
Good Luck! |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
If you have a student visa (D-2) you are legally allowed to work 20 hours per week, and I actually just confirmed this week with a trip to the immigration office that despite what I have always thought, you can LEGALLY teach English on a D-2 visa providing you keep it under 20 hours a week. No background check, no drug tests, no document screening..just fill in the form from immigration, get a note from your professor with permission, and pay 30,000 won. A hagwon may require those things from you, but it is not necessary to do that when you already have a D-2 visa, but just applying for permission to work.
Good Luck! |
Really? Cool~ I really hate the idea of (in just about every country, including the US) people on student visas not being able to work at least a maximum number of hours. 15~20 at least. It leads to only the wealthy being able to send their adult children to universities overseas.
That being said, 2(?) months ago when they busted the camps, the one with Flash, she said there were two students who were fined but not deported. Any idea why they got in trouble? It would be hard for the cops to prove they were working more than 20 hours a week (if they were). It's not like they had any paychecks to prove anything yet. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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I cant give information about that specific case, but my guess is that while it is legal to work, they MUST notify the immigration office with either an initial application, or an amended one (if you already obtained permission before),, showing where, what times, business registration number of the employer..etc.
I assume that either they did not make an initial application to begin with, or that they had permission to work at such and such place, but did not notify immigration about that specific camp. That was the case of a good number of students that got busted here in Daegu at the English Village. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:58 am Post subject: |
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The Ministry of Justice accept to the part-time job permission(only for study abroad(D-2)holders so far) to Korean language visa holders as well since April 1st, 2008.
But only for Korean language visa holders who have been to Korea for 6 months or more after entry.
Please apply to the competent immigration office with following documents for getting the permission if you want to.
blah blah blah documents you need blah blah blah
*Attention:It is punished severely in case that you work without any permission so you must get the part-time job permission in advance. |
Ok, duh, they got in trouble because they never applied for permission to work. I realized that after I had posted, hehehe. Silly of me.
Ok, so, Reefer, you've been here more than 6 months, so they probably didn't mention that part to you. It turns out that it went into effect last year (YIPPIE~!) but only if you have been here for at least 6 months. I wonder if it means 6 months on any visa or 6 months on your student visa....? Don't know....
Anyway, there is a way, but you have to wait a while to work. I like that little attention thing they put at the bottom. It's like scary and totally harmless looking at the same time. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
I cant give information about that specific case, but my guess is that while it is legal to work, they MUST notify the immigration office with either an initial application, or an amended one (if you already obtained permission before),, showing where, what times, business registration number of the employer..etc.
I assume that either they did not make an initial application to begin with, or that they had permission to work at such and such place, but did not notify immigration about that specific camp. That was the case of a good number of students that got busted here in Daegu at the English Village. |
LOL, you posted before I did. LOL, but cool. Do you know if the student visa will let you work anywhere like an F-2, or do you have to reapply everytime you change you location like with an E-2?
Not for me, I'm done with school. I just like to know stuff.  |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Actually i have been here almost 5 years, but I had always heard that you needed to have either an E-2 of F something to legally teach English. I specifically remember reading a few years ago that it was legal for students to work, but that language education was excluded from the kind of work they could do.(at that time)
It was not something that I looked into regularly as I always considered it off-limits unless I wanted to change to E-2 . Not only are there less hurdles to jump through, but my visa (D-2) is not determined by the employer, but rather by my university(so long as I pay my tuition)..meaning any if some hagwon owner tried to pull some crap, it is quite easy to walk away without worrying about losing apartment/visa status...etc.
I did not ask the man about private lessons, as I have no interest it in. He did say that I could do ANY kind of work, but for some reason said working at a kindergarten was off limits..though not sure why.
edit - If you work place or hours or employer change, you do not have to "re-apply" but rather just amend your information with immigration so they know exactly where you are working and at what times. Once you have already been approved, it is just a matter of changing time and locations if your employment situation changes. |
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nguyendtu02
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Carla |
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Carla,
How did you mean by "lots of crap and a long wait?" The Asian thing is interesting ; sounds like discrimination to me yeah?
I have less than 1 n half year of studying in Social Science with Community Change emphasis. i'm also thinking of getting a TESOL certificate too. any suggestions
I can't reply to you. LOL i'm trying to get to that 25
Thanks for all the info guys. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Carla |
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Carla,
How did you mean by "lots of crap and a long wait?" The Asian thing is interesting ; sounds like discrimination to me yeah? . |
Ummmmm, ya.... pretty much what I meant. Wow, sorry for the less than great news.
First of all, citizenship really isn't as important as ethnicity, unless you're strickly speaking about visa status. That's why white people usually get preference, after that it's koreans, other asians, and black people. There are exceptions to the rule. It just depends on finding the right school. We have black teachers on the board, and they are having a great time. Just playing the numbers, you should have an easier time find a job than they did, but not as easy if you were white, blonde hair, and blue eyes.
And it is really strange, but the fact that you are asian instead of white or black means that you really need to dress up for any pictures you send. I mean hair done and makeup, that will help you out too.
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| I have less than 1 n half year of studying in Social Science with Community Change emphasis. i'm also thinking of getting a TESOL certificate too. any suggestions . |
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying you don't have any higher education degree yet? You can't teach here without a bachelor's degree at least. The one exception is if you have two years done and you work for the TALK program.
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I can't reply to you. LOL i'm trying to get to that 25
Thanks for all the info guys. |
No problem, just keep posting here on this thread until you hit 25. |
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nguyendtu02
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: Carla |
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Hey Carla,
Nope, I'm still studying for my BA. I've figure the whole teaching abroad is a pretty big thing so I want to do lots of researches and weigh my options as well as ask for advices and suggestion way AHEAD of time.
Are you working for the Korean school board or something? Have you taguht abroad? |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Carla |
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| nguyendtu02 wrote: |
| Are you working for the Korean school board or something? Have you taguht abroad? |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Actually i have been here almost 5 years, but I had always heard that you needed to have either an E-2 of F something to legally teach English. I specifically remember reading a few years ago that it was legal for students to work, but that language education was excluded from the kind of work they could do.(at that time)
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I was just on a student visa (a full BA program, NOT a Korean language program). The deal was I could work under 20 hours at any job as long as it was relevant to what I was studying. As far as being an English teacher, they required me to have a bachelors degree in any field from an English speaking country, as that is the general requirement in Korea to teach English.
If you study Korean full time at a Korean language school you will not get the okay to do that kind of work. Most people studying at a full time university program in Korea don't have their BA yet so teaching work is not legal for them. However, if you go here for your masters, it's a great pay to pay yourself through the degree. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Bryan wrote: |
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
Actually i have been here almost 5 years, but I had always heard that you needed to have either an E-2 of F something to legally teach English. I specifically remember reading a few years ago that it was legal for students to work, but that language education was excluded from the kind of work they could do.(at that time)
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I was just on a student visa (a full BA program, NOT a Korean language program). The deal was I could work under 20 hours at any job as long as it was relevant to what I was studying. As far as being an English teacher, they required me to have a bachelors degree in any field from an English speaking country, as that is the general requirement in Korea to teach English.
If you study Korean full time at a Korean language school you will not get the okay to do that kind of work. Most people studying at a full time university program in Korea don't have their BA yet so teaching work is not legal for them. However, if you go here for your masters, it's a great pay to pay yourself through the degree. |
Agreed. To those concerned, students studying Korean Language here (D-4) are not allowed to do ANY kind of work. When I began the part-time job I have at a trade company here, the rule that it had work needed to be related to your studies was the norm I am on a D-2 and studying International Trade) Actually what I wanted to do was to teach Taekwondo as an assistant instructor, but since I graduated from the Taekwondo program here in Korea in 2007, it is not related to what I am studying now, and that is the reason I visited immigration to ask whether it was ok for me to do that. That is when the guy told me (as Carla pointed out) that the rule was recently changed and ANY kind of work was possible except working in a kindergarten.
As many have said here, different people at the immigration office will likely tell you different things depending on the weather, time of day, what color socks they are wearing..etc.etc. I asked the question to the Seoul Help Center and got the same kind of answer, then went to immigration to confirm it.
I will be moving to Seoul next summer for another Master's, so hearing that gives me alot more options for finding work up there, which is a HUGE relief. |
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