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onbeingtrue



Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Location: Oregon, USA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: location, location, location (more specifically, Anyang) Reply with quote

I'm wondering your opinions on how much emphasis to put on the location of one's first teaching job in Korea.

I've been offered a job at a public school in Anyang (Kwanyang Elementary--anybody know anything?). My hesitation in this is that my first preference was not to be in Seoul, but instead a place like Gyeongju, Changwon, Jinju, or even Daegu or Busan. I am a nature lover, like to go out but not a crazy partier, and want a taste for real Korean--traditional and present--culture (I don't care to have American food, etc. at my fingertips).

Should I hold out for one of the other places? Obviously, never having been to Korea I don't know much about these cities other than what I've read.

Anybody live in Anyang who can tell me a little bit about this place? Close to nature? More than just a suburb filled with apartments and chain restaurants/stores? Things to do?

Thanks everyone Smile
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Mr. Susan



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: death row

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a nice city, with a few "mountains" to climb.

There's Gwanaksan, and there's also Samsongsan (I think the name is slightly different than this, haha).

It's relatively close to Seoul by bus or subway, and there are a few bars around that cater to foreigners. One of them even has chili.

The things I mentioned are things you aren't looking for. If you want the real Korean experience, I suggest working out in the country side somewhere. Maybe down close to a shiz hole like Suncheon or Daejeon (they have western dogs in cages in their zoo).

Anyway, Anyang is pretty cool. There's a good public park called 'Central Park' near Pyeongchon Station. There's an Art Park at the base of one of their mountains, and it's a nice little hike.

If you wanted to know the best city to live in, I'd have to say Ilsan. Friendly, open-minded people that aren't afraid of fan death like the rest of the country. The people seem to more highly educated towards western culture up there. Less moron drivers running red lights, and less negativity directed toward foreigners. Less kids yelling out dumb sh*t in the street, too. The jobs pay more, and the apartments are new, as it's a new city. There's a CostCo up there, and there's a very nice mountain called, Bukhansan. It's a nice day climb. Even good in winter.
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yeremy



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: Real traditional and modern Korea Reply with quote

If you're looking for the great Korean outdoors and traditional Korea, Anyang is not for you. I used to live and work in a city near Anyang and the poster is correct that the hiking is good, but it's a suburb filled with apartment buildings and western restaurants, etc.

If you're interested in traditional Korean Confucian culture, try Andong. It is the center of Korean Confucianism. If you are interested in the Shilla dynasty, try Gyeongju. And if hiking and winter skiing is your thing, look for a job in Gangwon Province in Wonju, for example. If you are interested in Korean bull fighting, there is Cheongdo south of Daegu. It is a very small place but it is surrounded by small mountains. Sokcho on the East coast of Korea is a good place if you are into beaches and mountains. From the sound of your post, I think you would do well to avoid any large or even medium-sized cities. Munkyung, Angye (On-gae phonetically) and Gunwi are small towns in Gyeongbuk, which are on highway 55 on the way to Andong and Gangwon Province. They're pretty small and the countryside is pretty. Apply to EPIK and tell them that you want to go to a small, rural city if you want to get out into nature Korean-style and they will probably accomodate your request because many people do not want to go to the rural areas.
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onbeingtrue



Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Location: Oregon, USA

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you to both of you for your replies. I have decided not to go to Anyang--western restaurants is not what I'm looking for.

Yeremy, do you know anything about Haman County or Goseong County in Gyeongsangbukdo? Or Yangsan City? These are some of the areas that my recruiter has open positions for... along with Jinju, Changwon and Masan.

Thanks again to both of you!
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are missing out. IMO Anyang is one of the best towns to work in. My guess is that those who posted don't know all of Anyang. There is a lot of out door stuff you can do there. About Western restaurants, stay away from Byumgae Station area and Pyungcheon and you have no worries. I ate some of the best Korean food while in Anyang. I worked there for 6yrs. My apartment was nestled at the base of the smaller mountains separating Anyang from Sanbon and it was awesome. I used to walk on the mountain base every evening. On weekends I could climb the mountain which was nice enough to do in about an hour.

The people of Anyang are really friendly too. I think if you are not into partying the place can be alright. You are close from there to some great areas that are "country". I am not into partying so I don't know that aspect of Anyang. Also I didn't live in Pyungcheon so I wasn't into much of that part of town.

Also, Anyang has an ice rink which most towns don't. If you are into skating or watching hockey that can be an added bonus. Also, they have a world class in-line skate track too.

Anyways, again I am sorry you passed on such a great city.

My 2nd choice for where to live in would be Daejeon. The city is small compared to Seoul. It is clean and I couldn't believe how friendly the people were when I was down there.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been to Anyang a few times, went there Friday in fact. It's just a mediocre city between the more extreme rural areas and the busy Seoul life.

My advice is that specific location (city or dong name) is NOT at all important. Seoul is such a big city that you will need to travel 1-2 hours anyway to get to the "other side".

Your next question seems more practical, by looking at the larger regions. I lived near Andong, in Yeongyang which is near many mountains. This was the most extreme rural place I could imagine living in. I wouldn't personally do it again, but if you really like the country, then there is some nice landscape. You are relatively close to the sea.

If you want warmer weather go south like Daegu. If you want colder temperatures go north of Andong. I personally would do the latter so I could visit Seoul, and on occasion shoot on down to Busan or Daegu for the weekend.

Also, you should know the bus system in Korea is much better than Japan or the US. Traveling is not an issue.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're young and it's your first job in Korea - I would seriously suggest Seoul or Ilsan or Bundang.

Then later if you want to stay in Korea longer, you'll know your way around, speaka de lingo, and have friends.

I now live in the sticks (I mean REALLY in the sticks.) But I know my way around Korea and have good friends in Seoul / Gyeonggi-do that I know I can pop up to visit at weekends if I want.

I would never have hacked it here in my first couple of years though...

Depends on your personality and wants out of life though of course....
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yeremy



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: Masan Reply with quote

Masan is on the Southern coast in Gyoungsangnamdo, I believe. I have a friend in Suncheon City and he likes it a lot. Busan is the closest really big city to Masan. If you really do want to go to a rural area, it sounds like you need to change your recruiter because it doesn't sound like they have the jobs you are looking for.

You should try to ask a Korean friend about those cities and counties you mentioned. I live in North Gyeoungsang province and I know the area I live and drive around in, but I don't get to Busan or the Southern coast that much. I have heard good things about Yeosu and I have been there a couple of times. Sokcho is a small city on the East coast and Korea's famous Sorak Mountains are nearby. A friend of mine works in a hagwon there and she is very content at the moment. She likes her job very much as it allows a good schedule for studying in the am and working in the afternoons and early evening. Donghae City is another small city which is south of Sokcho. Uljin is a very rural area further south on the East coast.

In my opinion, Sanbon is a better area to live in than Anyang. But that's just my opinion. To each their own.
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katsu



Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Location: here and there

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: stay away from Kwanyang Elementary School Reply with quote

katsu wrote:
Onbeingtrue, i know of someone who works at Kwanyang Elementary School in Anyang...I think there were 3 teachers working there at one point (not sure how many people are there now) and from what i've heard they were always fighting for their basic rights as Gepik teachers, and would never get their way. I don't know if they have finished their contracts but i know that they were complaining constantly about the school, its treatment towards teachers. If I were you, I wouldn't go there, there are other schools that will treat you far better.
As to Anyang city, it's quite new and modern, not traditional at all. It's also very expensive, and koreans aren't too friendly in Anyang. It's crowded and full of snobby koreans.
If I were you, I'd look for Gyeonju, or Jeonju or Andong...
I think if you're not into the city stuff, you should go with epik...especially if u don't mind going into the rural area...I've lived in a rural area before and it's not that bad. People are nice and so grateful to have you there...Things are way cheaper and you'll get to know actually know Korea, and Korean way of life. Also if you go with epik you'll earn way more..sometimes up to $400 more...
Goodluck!


I have to 100% disagree with the "Koreans are not friendly and snobby" comment. How long pray tell did you live in Anyang? In my 6 years in that city I found it to be awesome. People were ALWAYS friendly to me, especially in my little neighbourhood. I didn't live over in Pyungcheon where all the want to be rich live, so if you were over on hawgwon row or around there I can see how you might get a bit jaded. Anyang is much more than just that area.

Chances are if I was going to live in Korea forever, Anyang would be on my top cities to live in.
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katsu



Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Anyang for over a year. I have also lived in 2 other cities and 1 rural area in Korea, and when compared to the Pyeongchon area where I lived, they were much more open and friendly. I"m not sure of the hogwon area...
But for a person who is seeking a more of a traditional area, Anyang's definately not it.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

onbeingtrue wrote:
Thank you to both of you for your replies. I have decided not to go to Anyang--western restaurants is not what I'm looking for.

Yeremy, do you know anything about Haman County or Goseong County in Gyeongsangbukdo? Or Yangsan City? These are some of the areas that my recruiter has open positions for... along with Jinju, Changwon and Masan.

Thanks again to both of you!


I live in Haman. It's a very small place 62,000 about 20 minutes west of Hapseong-dong in Masan by bus. There isn't a whole lot to do and there are no western restaurants. While I have enjoyed the nature here, it doesn't really rank among the best in that department either when compared to places in Gangwon, Geoje, and Gyeongju.

Goseong is a bit smaller than Haman and is located near Tongyeong, which is a nice city in the south. It's rural and there aren't really any conveniences there either. However, if you want the quiet life and time to yourself I guess Haman and Goseong are alright.

Yangsan City is near Busan and is even on subway line. It has western conveniences but also has "country" and quiet life if that's your thing. It's conveniently located between Ulsan and Busan. It's also near to Gyeongju and has a pretty temple, Tongdoksa.

Jinju is a great little city. Great food and plenty to do. Always enjoy my visits there.

Masan is near Haman and I go there all the time. Personally, I don't care for it. It's dirty, noisy and crowded. However, there is a delicious Mexican restaurant in Chang-dong. The city itself is just not my cup of tea.

Changwon is probably the most popular pick of the cities you listed. There is a large foreign community. It's a clean, planned city with lots of modern conveniences. Personally, I think it lacks character but it's definitely a nice escape from the rural life in Haman.
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mrs.burch



Joined: 21 Mar 2009
Location: Tongyeong City

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Tongyeong and love it. I came here by choice because I love to be outdoors, hiking, camping, etc. and always try to be near the water. There are a TON of islands here to explore on the weekends and each one is beautiful in it's own way. Have a really cool group of foreign teachers here and we usually go hiking or camping or something cool like that together every weekend.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrs.burch wrote:
I live in Tongyeong and love it. I came here by choice because I love to be outdoors, hiking, camping, etc. and always try to be near the water. There are a TON of islands here to explore on the weekends and each one is beautiful in it's own way. Have a really cool group of foreign teachers here and we usually go hiking or camping or something cool like that together every weekend.


Yeah, the islands off the coast of Tongyeong are gorgeous. Would teach there but don't want to be too close to the in-laws. heh
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