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bcraig



Joined: 01 Oct 2009
Location: Minnesota

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Is this necessary? Reply with quote

I am interested in applying to a job with KnK International Homeschool in Bundang. The posting says all listed documents must be submitted in order to be considered for the position. I am in the process of acquiring these documents for my visa application, but is it really necessary to submit them all just for my job application?

Documents required:
* Sealed transcripts (photocopies are fine for initial application), but Immigration Law REQUIRES SEALED TRANSCRIPTS for the Visa application!
* Copy of university diploma, notarized by Korean consulate (or original) again, a scan/copy is fine for the initial application
* Copy of inside passport page with date of birth and nationality shown
* Copy of teacher certification (optional, but HIGHLY recommended)
* Applicant�s medical check
* A criminal record check certificate - must have internationally recognized notarization (APOSTILLE).

Thanks.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Is this necessary? Reply with quote

bcraig wrote:
I am interested in applying to a job with KnK International Homeschool in Bundang. The posting says all listed documents must be submitted in order to be considered for the position. I am in the process of acquiring these documents for my visa application, but is it really necessary to submit them all just for my job application?

Documents required:
* Sealed transcripts (photocopies are fine for initial application), but Immigration Law REQUIRES SEALED TRANSCRIPTS for the Visa application!
* Copy of university diploma, notarized by Korean consulate (or original) again, a scan/copy is fine for the initial application
* Copy of inside passport page with date of birth and nationality shown
* Copy of teacher certification (optional, but HIGHLY recommended)
* Applicant�s medical check
* A criminal record check certificate - must have internationally recognized notarization (APOSTILLE).

Thanks.


You've already had the interview? You've been "hired"?

I think the "application" is for your visa confirmation number. Check to confirm this. If it is just for the school, a copy of the stuff should be enough. Basically, they need to know that you have the stuff and are ready to go. If it is for your VCN or NOA, then they need to submit the stuff to immigration in Korea before you apply at your embassy. You should also have another copy of your transcripts, one for Korea, one for your embassy.
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bcraig



Joined: 01 Oct 2009
Location: Minnesota

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carla,

I have not had an interview, I have not been hired. KnK is requesting this for my initial application ... saying I won't even be considered for a teaching position until I provide them with all listed documents.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bcraig wrote:
Carla,

I have not had an interview, I have not been hired. KnK is requesting this for my initial application ... saying I won't even be considered for a teaching position until I provide them with all listed documents.


And they said a scanned copy won't suffice? That's bulls*** because it is too difficult and expensive (sometimes) to get your CBC. Double check with them and explain that it takes too much time for you to get your CBC to just give it away when you don't have a job, but say it nicely. If a scanned copy isn't enough for the initial application, it could be more difficulties down the road.

ANYBODY know anything about this school?
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have all you need to know. They are making ridiculous demands just for the privilege of allowing you to speak to them. It's not likely to get any better. File this application in the circular file and carry on. Good luck with your employment search.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carla wrote:
bcraig wrote:
Carla,

I have not had an interview, I have not been hired. KnK is requesting this for my initial application ... saying I won't even be considered for a teaching position until I provide them with all listed documents.


And they said a scanned copy won't suffice? That's bulls*** because it is too difficult and expensive (sometimes) to get your CBC.

bcraig,
An employer can ask you for anything they want... you don't have to apply for the job.

Carla,
Where are you getting the notion a scanned copy won't suffice for the inital application?
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have a COPY* of your degree notorized and apostilled along with the CBC. Scan these into your computer and keep them in a file handy to attach to an email. If you're a recent college grad, you should be able to copy an unofficial transcript from your school's website. Paste it to a word doc and put that in your documents file too to attach. Order 4 or 5 SEALED transcripts for immigration and to keep in your personal records (future use). Scan the front page of your passport to attach too. Ditto the medical form, etc.

These are what they want so they know you're a serious candidate. Besides saving these on your computer, print yourself hard copies to keep for future reference.

When you are offered a contract and you're satisfied that's the job you want, you'll have to send the complete package to them along with the signed contract. They will take these to Immigration in Korea to have a visa issuance number approved for you. Then you go to your Korean consulate for the visa.

* A copy is very important. DO NOT send your original degree. The purpose of the apostille makes it as good as your original.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this necessary? Reply with quote

bcraig wrote:
I am interested in applying to a job with KnK International Homeschool in Bundang. The posting says all listed documents must be submitted in order to be considered for the position. I am in the process of acquiring these documents for my visa application, but is it really necessary to submit them all just for my job application?

Documents required:
* Sealed transcripts (photocopies are fine for initial application), but Immigration Law REQUIRES SEALED TRANSCRIPTS for the Visa application!
* Copy of university diploma, notarized by Korean consulate (or original) again, a scan/copy is fine for the initial application
* Copy of inside passport page with date of birth and nationality shown
* Copy of teacher certification (optional, but HIGHLY recommended)
* Applicant’s medical check
* A criminal record check certificate - must have internationally recognized notarization (APOSTILLE).

Thanks.


No you don't need any of this for an interview. You need it for a visa. They just want to know you have all the documents so, once they offer you the job you are not going to fail the visa requirements
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
* A copy is very important. DO NOT send your original degree.

Yes yes!

Kikomom wrote:
The purpose of the apostille makes it as good as your original.

No no! A degree does not have to be apostiled (a CRC does). Copies of the 'original degree' are fine if they are verified by a Korean consulate or the highest education level is verified by the KCUE.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:

Kikomom wrote:
The purpose of the apostille makes it as good as your original.

No no! A degree does not have to be apostiled (a CRC does). Copies of the 'original degree' are fine if they are verified by a Korean consulate or the highest education level is verified by the KCUE.


It would just be easier to get the degree apostilled along with everything else than to go on a separate trip to a Korean consulate.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
It would just be easier to get the degree apostilled along with everything else than to go on a separate trip to a Korean consulate.

That depends entirely on individual circumstances and whether the applicant's country is a signatory to the Apostilization Treaty.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Carla wrote:
bcraig wrote:
Carla,

I have not had an interview, I have not been hired. KnK is requesting this for my initial application ... saying I won't even be considered for a teaching position until I provide them with all listed documents.


And they said a scanned copy won't suffice? That's bulls*** because it is too difficult and expensive (sometimes) to get your CBC.

bcraig,
An employer can ask you for anything they want... you don't have to apply for the job.

Carla,
Where are you getting the notion a scanned copy won't suffice for the inital application?


If you read the requirements he posted, some things say a scanned copy will suffice for the initial application, but not for everything, specifically the CBC. That's why I told him to double check about it.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to weigh in here.

Scanned copies of everything should be fine before a job is offered and a contract is signed. Your recruiter seems to want all these documents in order to lock you in. Tell him/her that you will only send such documents until after a contract has been presented. agreed upon and signed.
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bcraig



Joined: 01 Oct 2009
Location: Minnesota

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so based on all of the comments, I'm planning on sending scanned copies of everything to be considered for this job. I'll just explain that since I have limited copies of official documents, I'm hesitant to send the hard copies unless hired.

As of now, I have two copies of my CBC that have been notarized and are currently en route to Illinois' secretary of state for apostille. I was told that I need notarized copies of my degree, with apostille, for my visa application. So, do I do the exact same with copies of my degrees (I have two, a B.A. and a B.S.) as I did with my CBC? Sorry ... I'm having trouble wrapping my head around all of this.

...

cruisemonkey wrote:
No no! A degree does not have to be apostiled (a CRC does). Copies of the 'original degree' are fine if they are verified by a Korean consulate or the highest education level is verified by the KCUE.


I may as well just do this as well for job application purposes ... but how exactly do I go about getting copies of my original degree verified by a Korean consulate? Just walk on in? Smile

Thanks for holding my hand through this process.

Thanks!
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since your CBC is already being apostilled, you know the drill...

Most people who are hundreds of miles away from the nearest consulate go the notarization/apostille route. Takes about a week in the mail and back. Just remember to include a cover letter stating which country the document is bound for. The KCUE is an alternate method usually used by people who are trying to get a visa from somewhere other than their home country.

Glad to see you put your location in your profile, bcraig. It certainly helps sort things out.

Minnesota Secretary of State, Authentications and Apostilles:
http://www.sos.state.mn.us/index.aspx?page=984
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