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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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 Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| Do you wish Korea would emulate the American legal system, where people can eat fast food all their lives and then sue the fast food restaurant for millions of dollars for making them fat? |
Anyone can sue anyone for any reason, even here; however, the real issue is will they prevail in the suit? Speaking of which, let's see a link to someone actually winning a suit against a fast food chain for making them fat. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| kabrams wrote: |
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| orosee wrote: |
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| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
 Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
You'd rather a person die than for you to have to step around him? You're "bitter" about that, and so you have no sympathy for someone who died (and it may or may not have been from alcohol poisoning)?
Christ. |
did i say that?
i get tired of people taking no personal responsibility. you act like a retard, pay the consequences. i was assuming he died as a result of drinking too much booze. if that is the case then i dont much sympathy for him. i wouldnt expect sympathy. i guess i'd be grateful to the good people in the emergency services if they were to help me. |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| kabrams wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
You'd rather a person die than for you to have to step around him? You're "bitter" about that, and so you have no sympathy for someone who died (and it may or may not have been from alcohol poisoning)?
Christ. |
did i say that?
i get tired of people taking no personal responsibility. you act like a retard, pay the consequences. i was assuming he died as a result of drinking too much booze. if that is the case then i dont much sympathy for him. i wouldnt expect sympathy. i guess i'd be grateful to the good people in the emergency services if they were to help me. |
Yeah, I stopped taking you seriously when you wrote "retard".
Good luck, buddy. |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| The real question is...was there a fan in the jail cell? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Fans are only deadly if you don't leave a window opwn. he was able to call for help several times, so we can assume he wasn't completely enclosed. the fan is innocent. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| kabrams wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| kabrams wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
You'd rather a person die than for you to have to step around him? You're "bitter" about that, and so you have no sympathy for someone who died (and it may or may not have been from alcohol poisoning)?
Christ. |
did i say that?
i get tired of people taking no personal responsibility. you act like a retard, pay the consequences. i was assuming he died as a result of drinking too much booze. if that is the case then i dont much sympathy for him. i wouldnt expect sympathy. i guess i'd be grateful to the good people in the emergency services if they were to help me. |
Yeah, I stopped taking you seriously when you wrote "retard".
Good luck, buddy. |
christ. you're a member of the PC brigade, too? or maybe you should just get off your high horse on this one? |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| If the guy was awake and conscious enough to complain and talk...wouldn't he have called his family or at the least medical help himself? Jes' sayin. |
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thurst
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| it strikes me as odd that they didn't list the actual cause of death...either way, it's the guy's fault for getting wasted and passing out. blaming the cops for not taking a drunk guy seriously is a bit ridiculous. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Why did the police even take hime in? Was he a danger to himself? I'd say the cops should pony up the money and next time mind their own buisness. Live and learn. |
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Gibberish
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, you're putting a price on life?   |
No, it's just no secret that suing people in America is practically a national pastime, and people sue for absolutely ridiculous amounts. For example, the old woman who spilled coffee on herself and got millions, or any other hilarious amount people get for doing stupid shit. In America the family of the deceased would get millions and the officers would be fired, all thanks to someone else being a moron. |
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Gibberish
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
| Fans are only deadly if you don't leave a window opwn. he was able to call for help several times, so we can assume he wasn't completely enclosed. the fan is innocent. |
Yes, as we all know, if the window was closed the fan would have cut up all the air molecules and suffocated him. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Gibberish wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
Wow, you're putting a price on life? |
No, it's just no secret that suing people in America is practically a national pastime, and people sue for absolutely ridiculous amounts. For example, the old woman who spilled coffee on herself and got millions, or any other hilarious amount people get for doing stupid shit. In America the family of the deceased would get millions and the officers would be fired, all thanks to someone else being a moron. |
That old woman was a 79 year old grandma who got 2nd and 3rd degree burns over her crotch due to coffee hotter than any person could drink. McDonalds refused her offer of a $20,000 settlement and she ended up with something like $500,000. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Gibberish wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
Wow, you're putting a price on life? |
No, it's just no secret that suing people in America is practically a national pastime, and people sue for absolutely ridiculous amounts. For example, the old woman who spilled coffee on herself and got millions, or any other hilarious amount people get for doing stupid shit. In America the family of the deceased would get millions and the officers would be fired, all thanks to someone else being a moron. |
The best recent example is the Judge who sued the Chinese (maybe Korean?) dry cleaners for something like 40 mil for losing his favorite pants. Ahh, here it is.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18471265/
They were Korean. He didn't win, but think of the stress he put these people through. And a judge! Would you like to see this sort of stuff here?
"Family Sues Native English Teacher For 500mil Won Because Son didn't Pass English Exam!" |
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ekul
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
| "Family Sues Native English Teacher For 500mil Won Because Son didn't Pass English Exam!" |
To be fair it should be "Family sues NET for 500million won for losing son." I could see that one happening too. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| Do you wish Korea would emulate the American legal system, where people can eat fast food all their lives and then sue the fast food restaurant for millions of dollars for making them fat? |
It has its excesses, but most frivolous suits go nowhere in the US system. Our legal system is the envy of much of the world. It enjoys a high perception of legitimacy, its statutes and body of common law have developed a high level of expertise in many areas, its judges are highly-educated and experienced and largely incorruptible. That's why so many international companies choose to do their business under US law, even if their business is being done in France or Indonesia or anywhere else.
So yes, Korea probably should emulate the US system in many respects. There certainly have been calls to do that recently in regards to criminal law.
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Also, in REAL "3rd world" countries, the average person could barely earn the equivalent of 10 million won in a lifetime of work.
Anyone who thinks South Korea in any way resembles a 3rd world country has obviously never been to one. |
I think you missed Mr. Pink's point: not that Korea is a 3d world country, but that its legal system's development hasn't caught up to its economic development. |
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