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More problems with newest V3 by Ahn Labs

 
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: More problems with newest V3 by Ahn Labs Reply with quote

I hate this program with a passion. Koreans think it's God's gift to antivirus technology. You can see how much it sucks just by looking here: http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml


It's installed on all of our computers at the university. It allows the passing of a USB key virus called autorun.inf , and another virus called win32:Pakes. These viruses are caught by Kaspersky, Avast, and MS Essentials.

autorun.inf is a botnet thing of some kind.
http://www.nprotect.com/service/kepad/virus_view.html?mode=&no=812


Pakes is a trojan and allows downloading of fake anti-spyware and crapware.
http://www.viruslist.com/fr/viruses/encyclopedia?virusid=68830


I am convinced that either:

A: Ahn just doesn't work
B: The school uses a cracked illegal copy that has been modified to allow the virus/viruses.


I have alerted the school to the problem multiple times, and have resorted to installing other antivirus software on top of V3. The problem is that our schools are actually setting the computers on a form of disc image (that doesn't eradicate the virus, but removes my additional antivirus software on a weekly basis).

There appears to be nothing I can do about it. Have attempted to remove V3 using MSConfig, but that causes the computer to totally crash, beep like a crazy radio, and rebuild itself (probably part of the image safety software).

Any ideas? The computer team here is so not interested in fixing this problem that I am beginning to wonder if THEY are the ones involved in allowing the virus to continue, or setting up a botnet for their own purposes. I'm considering contacting V3 over this issue to see what they say, but I'd hate to get in trouble if my school is using illegal software and I am the one who gets fingered for outing them.

Hmph.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just use your own computer to do your work and then who cares about the university's computers?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a computer in every classroom hooked to a projector. It's hard to avoid.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah.. shock! This computer I'm using in another room found autorun.inf for the first time, but is unable to clean it off. Sad
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Write protect your USB devices (if you use them on these infected systems). Why do you feel the need to do more than protect yourself?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s more of a hassle but you could take your own laptop and then plug it into the DVI or VGA cable from the computer station. Or you could keep resetting the computer to a reset point from an earlier time. Before Ahn garbage settled in.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Write protect your USB devices (if you use them on these infected systems). Why do you feel the need to do more than protect yourself?


The USB key cannot be write-protected. Attendance is taken and saved on the key in a spreadsheet, and sometimes I take notes about student responses and interaction. I considered e-mailing myself the information, but internet service is spotty. It seems to go down when I need it most.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Demophobe wrote:
Write protect your USB devices (if you use them on these infected systems). Why do you feel the need to do more than protect yourself?


The USB key cannot be write-protected. Attendance is taken and saved on the key in a spreadsheet, and sometimes I take notes about student responses and interaction. I considered e-mailing myself the information, but internet service is spotty. It seems to go down when I need it most.


And the attendance needs to be saved on your key? And for some reason that key needs to be taken home (or to a computer you care about)?

Not trying to be argumentative (believe it or not!), I just don't see how the computers being infected really matters. Or that Ahnlabs is (well-documented by myself and others here in the past) a slice of poop.

My USB key is constantly infected from my school...as soon as I get home, Avira takes care of it and life goes on...
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Kryten



Joined: 10 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bass, this might be of interest:

http://www.davidsmeaton.com/index.php/2009/07/autorun-inf-hack-for-usb-thumb-drives/

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i�m not much of a tech geek, but i have a little trick that works wonders for usb thumb drives.

one of the problems with using portable usb devices is that they�re prone to virii. especially, they�re prone to malicious programs automatically installing themselves via windows� autorun feature.

the hack which follows is useful and practical. it protects the thumb drive itself from having autorun files installed. this is how the virii propagate themselves � by installing an autorun file and then using that file to spread the virus to other machines.....
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kryten wrote:
Hey Bass, this might be of interest:

http://www.davidsmeaton.com/index.php/2009/07/autorun-inf-hack-for-usb-thumb-drives/

Quote:
i�m not much of a tech geek, but i have a little trick that works wonders for usb thumb drives.

one of the problems with using portable usb devices is that they�re prone to virii. especially, they�re prone to malicious programs automatically installing themselves via windows� autorun feature.

the hack which follows is useful and practical. it protects the thumb drive itself from having autorun files installed. this is how the virii propagate themselves � by installing an autorun file and then using that file to spread the virus to other machines.....



Cool!
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