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In which country is it best to raise children?
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In which country is it best to raise children?
The USA
23%
 23%  [ 12 ]
The UK
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Canada
21%
 21%  [ 11 ]
Korea
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
Other Asian country
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Other European country
15%
 15%  [ 8 ]
Australia or New Zealand
11%
 11%  [ 6 ]
African country
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Latin american country
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
A combination of the above
11%
 11%  [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 52

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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: In which country is it best to raise children? Reply with quote

I have started to think of my long term future, and I've been wondering where it would be best to raise my children (one time maybe 10 years into the future). In my personal situation I think I could work as an engineer in pretty much any country in the world, and I think it would work out financially and when it comes to VISA's as well. So therefore I ask myself, which country would I want to live and raise my children in if I can chose from any country in the world.

I'll let you make your own arguments, but I can see good reasons for children to grow up in America or Europe, but I also think they can get a unique experience by growing up as a second generation immigrant in Asia. I would like my children to be bilingual, but I would also like them to have the best opportunities when it comes to making friends and education.

I'm tilting towards having my children in Korea and moving to an English speaking country when they reach school age. Then they can most likely be fluent in both languages but wont have to go through the Korean education system. I like the UK, but the US education system also seem quite good if you're willing to support your child and have pointy elbows. I come from a non-English speaking European country, so moving back home is also tempting to secure my children's social welfare.

Please add your own opinion and try not to make it too biased based on your home country.
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Samurai Blur



Joined: 20 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a combination is the best. I wish I had the same opportunity as a child to grow up around different cultures and languages. Instead, I grew up in Texas. Not a lot of rich culture in Texas.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will your kids be part-Korean?

I marked US because I grew up there, but I think Canada is comparable, and certain parts of Canada are better for raising a family than certain parts of the US.

The US has the biggest and best higher education system though, that's basically a fact. American universities can't be beat. But in middle and high school the quality of the experience and outcome depend a lot on how much the parents put into the kid's education.

But if you're from Europe, maybe your kid will have the best experience growing up in your home country. He/she will probably grow up at least bilingual, maybe trilingual or more. I gotta be honest, I sometimes wish I grew up in Western Europe rather than the U.S., because it seems a little better in terms of social welfare and overall quality of life.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd vote Germany, even though I fear ze Germans.
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steveinincheon



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some combination is probably best, but as a primary location I'd have to pick some socialist basket-case Scandinavian country. Reason being there is a high standard of living, education is good, day care is generally free (well your taxes are paying for it), and parents generally have plenty of time to spend with their children.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Europe seems like a great place to live. Great quality of life, safe in terms of crime and political stability, good education, and exposure to various cultures and languages. If it wasn't for the crime rate, I'd say the US is best.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
Will your kids be part-Korean?

Hard to tell. As I mentioned I'm planning 10 years ahead, but I'm staying in Korea for a while so it's not unlikely.

There are a couple of unis in the UK and maybe one or two in France which seem to be comparable to american top unis, but I agree that nobody can beat the US unis.

Another problem with moving to a foreign country is that I wouldn't know where to live and how to make the right networks. The US for example is so diverse to the location within the country would be very important. Even the location within a city can be important. Back home I would be much more qualified to pick the right neighborhood than in a foreign country. I guess you can narrow it down by doing some research, but local information would be very useful.
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sugarkane59



Joined: 10 Jun 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from the UK. I wouldn't want to bring kids up here, so I chose Australia. Could do Canada or somewhere Scandinavian like Denmark though.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up in the US and wouldn't have it any other way. I loved my childhood in California--very multicultural.

I seriously do not think I'd want to raise my kids anywhere outside of the West and East Coasts.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UknowsI wrote:
redaxe wrote:
Will your kids be part-Korean?

Hard to tell. As I mentioned I'm planning 10 years ahead, but I'm staying in Korea for a while so it's not unlikely.

There are a couple of unis in the UK and maybe one or two in France which seem to be comparable to american top unis, but I agree that nobody can beat the US unis.

Another problem with moving to a foreign country is that I wouldn't know where to live and how to make the right networks. The US for example is so diverse to the location within the country would be very important. Even the location within a city can be important. Back home I would be much more qualified to pick the right neighborhood than in a foreign country. I guess you can narrow it down by doing some research, but local information would be very useful.


Oh, you're not even married yet? Haha. Just realize that where you live will depend more on where your spouse wants to live, than on where you decided you wanted to raise your kids before you even met her.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: In which country is it best to raise children? Reply with quote

UknowsI wrote:

I'm tilting towards having my children in Korea and moving to an English speaking country when they reach school age. Then they can most likely be fluent in both languages but wont have to go through the Korean education system.


I doubt your kids will be fluent in Korean if they don't a spend a significant amount of time (6+ years) in the Korean school system. You take them out of the language environment too early, they are likely to retain very little of that language. There are countless examples of it, most of the Koreans that are fluent in English and Korean immigrated to the US in their early to mid-teens.
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as safety, cleanliness, education, and proximity to Asia (if you marry an Asian), Japan is pretty hard to beat.

Now me, personally, am an American, a hard core American -- Bible, guns, and Constitution American. Therefore so will be my children. Only one place for that.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea - kids are overworked in school, mixed race kids will be treated like shiit, poor health care coverage

Canada - kids are cocky pricks, schools are inefficient and ineffective, poor health care


The best place? No idea.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
I grew up in the US and wouldn't have it any other way. I loved my childhood in California--very multicultural.

I seriously do not think I'd want to raise my kids anywhere outside of the West and East Coasts.


California is finished.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:

American universities can't be beat. .


I think you read too many "Top Ten" lists.

America's "top" universities are good at marketing and branding, I'll give them that.

But those universities are for the rich only. And we know that all rich people aren't smart. Didn't Dubya Bush graduate from Harvard with an MBA?

No sane person would spend $100,000 for a bachelor's degree. Only the Asians would.


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