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[pkang0202]

Seems to me they are 2 completely different people. Thoughts?

[Troutslayer]

Pleanty....buuuuuuut, I'd like to see those who claimed him to be their poltical messiah come out and share their thoughts first.


slayer of trout

[sqrlnutz123]

As with any political candidate what they say they're going to do and what they actually do are not the same. Very few exceptions. I doubt he ever had any intention of "Hope and Change"-ing. It was all a sham to get himself elected.

[djsmnc]

Anyone with sense already knew the outcome.

Of course, by the time it got to this point, there was really nothing the aforementioned sensible ones could do.

[Kuros]

[sqrlnutz123]

[zipper]

The republicans and Democrats seem to complement one another quite well. Until Americans get alternative parties with a stronger political voice in Government the current parties will always complement each other's political initiatives and policies.

[pkang0202]

[Kuros]

[huffdaddy]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[blade]

For those who think that the left was uncritical of Obama before he became president this is for you.
p://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/List_of_Left-wing_articles_critical_of_Obama

[pkang0202]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/pub-obama-campaign-promises/

[Ya-ta Boy]

I'm with Huffdaddy on this. It looks to me like Obama has made progress on several fronts that are important to me. Nine months vs 48 months. Isn't it a bit early to be demanding completion? It seems the same people who say Obama hasn't delivered on his promises are the same people who say he is trying to do too much.

Beyond that, I think anyone who insists on strictly holding candidates to promises is probably too naive to live more than 10-15 meters away from Mom or some other responsible adult. The measure is: How close to the promise was the candidate able to come by the end of his term, given the political reality that presidents are not dictators? Politics moves by increments, not leaps and bounds.

Some things he's delivered on:
1) Fundamental change in how the executive relates to the legislative branch. This is profoundly different than the imperial presidency we've all grown used to in modern times. During the campaign he talked a lot about doing business differently in Washington, but I don't recall him talking specifically about this.

2) A year ago the economy was teetering on the brink. Things have improved about a million % since then. (TARP is a part of that.) Obama should get a lot of credit for helping to create a more secure atmosphere.

3) His less aggressive foreign policy is moving in the right direction. By all accounts the level of anti-Americanism has declined.

4) We're closer than ever before to getting some kind of health insurance reform. No honest observer can say that Obama has rammed his views down Congress' throat. The minority--the loser in the last election--has had enormous impact on the legislation as currently proposed in spite of large Democratic majorities.

Kudos to the OP for posting this: "FoxNews.com reviewed some of Obama's biggest campaign promises, and how his actions have measured up. The verdicts are ranked as promise kept, partly kept, work in progress, not yet addressed and promise broken."

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[pkang0202]