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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Tattoos!!! Reply with quote

Has anyone ran into problems concerning their tattoos while working as a teacher in Korea? Either from their school or just people in public? Would love to hear any stories.

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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Tattoo's!!! Reply with quote

brandonlk wrote:
Has anyone ran into problems concerning their tattoo's while working as a teacher in Korea? Either from their school or just people in public? Would love to hear any stories.


Cover them up when you are working. Nobody wants to see them. If you have one on your neck or face, you won't be able to work here. And they look really tacky in the workplace.

In public in your free time, nobody cares. They are quite common among foreigners. And they are getting more common among Koreans.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Tattoo's!!! Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
brandonlk wrote:
Has anyone ran into problems concerning their tattoo's while working as a teacher in Korea? Either from their school or just people in public? Would love to hear any stories.


Cover them up when you are working. Nobody wants to see them. If you have one on your neck or face, you won't be able to work here. And they look really tacky in the workplace.

In public in your free time, nobody cares. They are quite common among foreigners. And they are getting more common among Koreans.


Yeah tattoos are getting really trendy, a lot of the kids I see in Hongdae have them now. It's like, last year hardly anyone had them, then this summer I suddenly noticed a bunch of Korean guys walking around with full sleeve tattoos!
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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two. One on my arm and one down the back of my neck. Both cannot be seen while wearing a long sleeved dress shirt. I just wondered if on days off or after school hours if other Korean teachers or the "Boss" may treat you differently after finding out. Or if they mention it to the school during the physical exam. I was told that for public school positions they wont hire anyone with a tattoo whether it can be seen or not. They even ask on the application.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are planning on working as an English teacher in Korea, your tattoos will probably cause you a lot less grief than your misuse of the possessive apostrophe.

Tattoos:
As others have pointed out, they are becoming more prevalent among Koreans in recent years. They used to be associated with gangs, and foreigners with tattoos would have a hard time in saunas and anyone with a visible tattoo would have a hard time getting work. Tattoos are now associated with fashion as much as gangs, so they don't have the same negative impact in the workplace.

Apostrophes:
If it was a typo, forgive my grammar-naziness.
The chances are, you could be standing in front of a class who can barely get past "I'mfineandyou?" I have noticed though that students who are able to write basic sentences may be a bit wobbly on spelling and subject verb agreement, but they pretty much ace the possessive apostrophe - something that seems to baffle a surprising number of native speakers.

Sorry my tattoo stories aren't more exciting, but I have noticed young women sporting visible tattoos in class, and I have met a Korean woman who is covered in US gang tattoos (prison dots and neck tattoos and the whole nine yards) who is working as an English instructor at a Korean university. The uni airbrushes her photo for publicity shots, but they haven't fired her.

Just make sure your tats aren't visible in your application photo.
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Kurtz



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish they would have a zero visible tattoo policy, it just looks really bad.

Attending EPIK meetings, going to open classes, on several occasions I've seen tattoos on the neck, lower back which is exposed when the teacher bends over, and poking out of long sleeved shirts I mean huh? what's with the hiring of punk rockers to teach kids!

A guy who used to do one of the after school programs had all of his upper body done, and the young kids are telling their Korean teacher "oh, so horrible!"

A small arm tat which might poke out of shirt on a summers day in say a middle or high school might be OK, but really ugly tats and young kids is just not on.

I must be getting old, but I get a little embarrassed when I see foreign guys sitting on the floor of a train wearing a singlet and exposing all their tats, man, what are you trying to prove? trying to say you're a bad boy and trying to gain the attention of wild Korean girls?

Anyways, kids and tats just don't mix.
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brandonlk



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't think that you can classify all people who have tattoos into one category. I am certainly not a punk. I have a tattoo of a solid black cross and a tattoo with Kongi writing. I am sure there are lots of women who have little tattoos on their ankles or their backs and I am sure they are excellent teachers. I can see however someone with multiple tattoos everywhere may be an issue.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:


Anyways, kids and tats just don't mix.


What a load of horse flop. What makes you qualified to say this?
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you need a qualification to state an opinion?

I'll remember to use IMHO next time, and thanks to adding to the debate, your thoughts are very deep and classic Dave's by the way, attack the poster without adding anything to the subject matter, well done.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brandonlk wrote:
I have a tattoo of a solid black cross ...

Cover up for an old girlfriend/ex-wife's name?
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
Do you need a qualification to state an opinion?

I'll remember to use IMHO next time, and thanks to adding to the debate, your thoughts are very deep and classic Dave's by the way, attack the poster without adding anything to the subject matter, well done.


Your opinion is ridiculous, there's no substance to address.
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2000zerozero



Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st post! Idea

I'm female, and I'd never show any of my 5 tattoos in the daylight. I'm already judged for being a size 6 instead of a 2 (aka called "a little fat"), told my hair is "too thin" and have been instructed on how I could better my appearance by wearing eyeshadow.

There's no way I'd show a tattoo at work here.

People who want to judge you will find a way to judge you out loud here - which can be charming in the right setting. People in the US will judge you, only they have enough shame to do it quietly if they have any tact. If you're okay with being told someone's unsolicited negative opinion about your tats, show away.
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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
brandonlk wrote:
I have a tattoo of a solid black cross ...

Cover up for an old girlfriend/ex-wife's name?



Ha Ha. No just didn't want one that was Celtic and I couldn't decide so I just went the basic route!!!
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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2000zerozero wrote:
1st post! Idea

I'm female, and I'd never show any of my 5 tattoos in the daylight. I'm already judged for being a size 6 instead of a 2 (aka called "a little fat"), told my hair is "too thin" and have been instructed on how I could better my appearance by wearing eyeshadow.

There's no way I'd show a tattoo at work here.

People who want to judge you will find a way to judge you out loud here - which can be charming in the right setting. People in the US will judge you, only they have enough shame to do it quietly if they have any tact. If you're okay with being told someone's unsolicited negative opinion about your tats, show away.


I would never show my tats at work because I am ok with being professional. However, I think that I will probably not cover them up on my days off. I only have 1 that is visible on my forearm and it is a cross so maybe there will be some friendly Korean Catholics in my area. lol Lets just hope that there are not any field trips to the beach or I will be the only one there with a long sleeved shirt on. Smile
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brandonlk wrote:
I have a tattoo of a solid black cross and a tattoo with Kongi writing.

I did a google, but I'm none the wiser. As google said: "Do you mean Kanji writing?"
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