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hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

At the moment, I'm looking at an i5. It's going to be used for gaming.

I'm a little behind on the current tech, a couple of years ago I knew the market inside out, did comparative reviews of almost every decent product on the market, but these days I haven't done half as much research. I've built about 5 or 6 rigs before (775)

The big question is whether or not its worth bothering with i5 and whether I should save a lot of money by building a 775 rig. It seems the bottleneck is nearly always the gpu these days. A recent summary on tom's fanboy hardware backs that view up (not that I listen to Tom's much)

The i5 rig I've put together on danawa is:

ASUS 라데온 HD 5770 EAH5770 D5 1GB 242,000 (I might get the 4870 or even the 4890 due to the 256 bus and lower price, but I've seen that the 5770 scales amazingly well on crossfire, although, unfortunately it has a 128 bus.) on the uppside 5770 runs nice and cool, ocs if you get the asus, is smaller, has lower power, scales incredibly well on CF and is dx11 compatible (low on my list of upsides.) I'm hoping the 5770 can cope with the 1920x rez; benchmarks I've seen seem to say it will, just.

GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3 195,000 (always found gigabytes to be rock solid and good overclockers, plus this was one of the cheaper models.) I'm assuming that the downside of i5 is the lack of dual pci x 16, which may bottleneck crossfire in future graphics cards.

인텔 코어 i5 린필드 750 정품 237,000 (cheapest i5)

삼성 1TB Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ (SATA2/7200/32M) 100,000 (I've heard this is by far the fastest 7200 out there on the market. I'm pretty sure the reviewers were talking about the f3 not the f1 on the podcast I listened to.) I'm assuming the f3 is faster than the f1, but have a feeling I might be wrong; will check benchies for this.

삼성 Super-WriteMaster SH-S223B 26,000

Case: they all look like cheap *****, even the expensive ones. Probably go for the 16,000 won mid atx as the upper end look total rubbish.
16,700
BIGS 시크 HD
170mm/405mm/345mm

FSP 500-60APN 58,000 (FSP is the only brand I've ever heard of on danawa; does anyone else know of any reputable brands. I miss the occidental days of seasonic, corsair etc. I never skimp on the psu as a rule.)

LG전자 플래트론LCD W2261VP-PF 238,000 (this is 16:9, which I'm a little concerned about for gaming. Do you think 16:10 is a better option? I have no idea if this is the best bang per buck on the market at the moment.)

ram will be 2x2gb ddr3 about 100,000.

I couldn't find any decent aftermarket coolers, and to be honest I'm considering using the stock fan and seeing what I get out of it oc wise. I've found aftermarkets a total pain in the arse to install. (God, the scythe ninja days, please kill me.)

The other rig I put together was a cheapo gigabyte socket 775 board (bout 90,000) and a low end core2 (bout 56,000) It's amazing how much cheaper that ended up.

Any comments/criticisms welcome.

eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

The 1156 mobo's can't do the dual PCIx16 fully. One slot will run at x4.

Also, the 1156 can't do the Tri-Channel memory thing. How much faster 6Gb in Tri-Channel is over 4GB in Dual-Channel, I'm not really sure. Haven't really researched that.

But, if the 1156/i5 platform can do what you want, then go for it.

I think anyone buying a graphics card around now will kick themselves if they don't get the HD5850............it's the do-all for not much money card of the moment.................although it's not too cheap in Korea........as per bloody usual.

In saying that, I'll definitely be getting one in January when the prices dip a little and the 3rd party vendors have made some nice versions of it.

hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

chevro1et · Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Location: Busan, ROK

FSP is a solid PSU. Other known (reputable) brands on Danawa include Enermax and Antec, but unsure of the selection of models from these vendors available.

Here is a great aftermarket cooler that will allow you to push whatever cpu you decide to get. If you do go for the i5, may have to find the mounting kit for the 1156.
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=702120&cate_c1=862&cate_c2=887&cate_c3=13663&cate_c4=0

What else are you planning to do with this rig besides game? Realistically, I think that you could get away with a s775 dual core like an 8500 OCed to the nuts (4+ghz) and the 5850 and be fine for quite awhile. As long as you're not a total graphics wh0re that has to have AA and AF maxxxxed on every brand-new game.

New gen hardware is just ridiculously priced here, and I don't get it. So much of it is manufactured in Taiwan or China, and its price-gouging at its finest here. Lack of demand, maybe? Don't need i7/ i5 cpus or ATi 5xxx or nVidia 3xx series cards to play Starcraft or WoW.

There will be the nay-sayers, asking why you would want to spend your hard-earned won on a dead-end, EOL rig like a s775. Comes down to budget. Depends on how much you are willing to spend and if you can justify the need for 100+ fps when you could spend less and still have a solid 50+ fps. My $.02

bassexpander · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

I like Gigabyte too, but just a warning, there MAY be some odd compatibility issues with a few Gigabyte boards and Windows 7 at the moment. I happened across a thread like that yesterday. It was some odd error that caused an issue because of a part they used... can't remember much more than that. You might want to check around specifically on the board you are considering before you buy.

By the way, the i5 just costs about 240,000. That's pretty darned good. As of 2 days ago, Korea hadn't seen the AMD price cuts yet. AMD was forced to cut its prices for the i5 because it was kicking their top chips and costing less.

Honestly... if I were you and you were considering the I5 for now, and the I7 later... I'd just go with a cheaper p55 board and upgrade both the board and chip later, if you want. The I7's will be cheaper, and the boards will be cheaper by then, too.

martypants · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ulsan, South Korea

Ummm...what do you want to do with this machine? That's a lot of horsepower
for just doing email and facebook. Just a gaming rig?

eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

bassexpander · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

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ladron · Joined: 20 Feb 2006

I'm enjoying this discussion, but I'm waiting for the douche to show up and start in with his pointless, non-helpful trolling and insults.

I would also say the 775 depends on your budget. If you really must play Crysis (or whatever's next) on full and on a GIANT monitor/TV so you can enjoy every single grain of beach sand then go for top of the line all at once. Elsewise, save your cashish and wait for the inevitable price drops every 3 months and upgrade to a max machine later.

My $.02

kprrok · Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC

hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

Those AMD processors do look very cheap.......and not too slow either......plus the AMD mobos are cheaper.....

I think Intel may be getting a bit greedy with their pricing.

It could be time to go back to AMD! Combined with an ATI GPU and you have an all AMD rig.

hugekebab · Joined: 05 Jan 2008

A lot of my umming and arring is because I might be leaving at the middle of next year, and it feels a bit silly to buy a rig now. However the missus's laptop just conked out and she needs a computer, so I suppose I'm kind of forced into it anyway.

I am considering amd bass, although the intels are clearly superior, the recent amd price drops make the bang per buck more appealing. I'll have to wait for those drops to kick in here though.

Maybe I should get a lower rez monitor to reduce the need for a killer rig. I was going to go for a 23 inch 1920 x 1080 lg jobber, but it may be more prudent to get a 1680x so the system doesn't have to kick as much arse, thereby saving me some ��.