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RufusW
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| ontheway wrote: |
| it seems that you may have overlooked the fact that not many vehicles actually drive directly to or from Britain |
Do you know what the channel tunnel is?
(I'm glad you accept Palin as a silly person: one of the few.) |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| Mises, you're an apologist. |
For what? I don't care about LD. I'm 100% indifferent.
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| Dobbs got pushed off his program |
He quit. Though the fact that his house was shot at a few weeks back might have played a part.
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| because of his thinly veiled attacks on immigrants/Mexicans/Latinos/those of a different colour. |
He strongly opposes legal and illegal immigration. Oh well. Get over it. 20% unemployment in the USA. Get ready to hear a hell of a lot more about immigration.
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| I'm sorry, but that's what actually happened. He didn't get ratings because the ignorant minority were busy tuning into Beck. |
CNN as a whole has terrible ratings. I'm waiting for Wolf or Cooper to get canned, then.
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| He did code his language and he presented ridiculous assetions as real problems - i.e. that video you brought up - Mexican truck drivers being 'dangerous'. |
And maybe they are. Have you done research into the specific details? I haven't. But I accept that foreign products have to meet xyz safety standards and I don't think it "racist" to discuss this.
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| He didn't field an interview about truck regulations did he? |
I don't know. I don't watch him. I don't watch any of them. They are fodder for proles. It's like a sporting event. People X have their team and people Y another. And each side thinks the other side is evil. I have my preferences and you have yours.
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| Reminder: he failed to report the news about Obama birth certificate. |
So what? Because he talked about birthers every other position is wrong? Or that makes him a racist/xenophobe etc?
You might have to suffer from more of him, however:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/lou-dobbs-probably-running-president |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
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| Dobbs got pushed off his program |
He quit. Though the fact that his house was shot at a few weeks back might have played a part. |
Ha... yea, he gave up his excellent position at CNN to concentrate on.... his radio career.... errr... no... He was sacked.
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And maybe they are [dangerous]. Have you done research into the specific details? I haven't. But I accept that foreign products have to meet xyz safety standards and I don't think it "racist" to discuss this. |
You didn't watch the video. They weren't discussing axel size.
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| I don't know. I don't watch him. I don't watch any of them. |
Oh.
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| So what? Because he talked about birthers every other position is wrong? |
No. He failed to present the news. It's important people get news... not opinion.... or conjecture... like Dobbs saying Obama hasn't supplied a birth certificate.
Stupid and high time he was cut. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Rufus, if you really think Lou Dobbs is anti-immigration because he is a racist, you're being extremely simplistic and ignorant of anti-immigration sentiment through both history and the world today.
Lou Dobbs is a loudmouth douche, just like Keith Olberman, Glenn Beck, et al. No more, no less. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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No. Olberman provides facts. People like Dobbs, Beck or O'Reilly don't - they provide wild conjecture and supposition.
Being anti-immigrant is fine, but Dobbs based this opposition on the 'facts' that immigrants were bringing in leprosy and H1N1, or on the belief the President wasn't born in the U.S.. Ignorance and bigotry don't deserve a place in any argument. This is exactly why he was sacked. |
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ytuque
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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The first interview he featured highlighted the 'safety issues' of letting Mexican drivers into the country. Can you not see the subtext? (Mexican drivers are likely to be doing something illegal). Do you think Britain demands Britsh drivers anywhere over 20 miles from its border? The real issue is Dobbs presupposing Mexicans are threats and shouldn't be trusted within America's borders.
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Rufus,
Have you considered that Mexico is a developing country with minimal rule of law? As such, safety inspections for vehicles are poorly regulated and slipping the inspector some money will guarantee any vehicle will pass. If you have driven in Mexico as I have, you will have noticed countless unsafe vehicles on the road. No American that I know with extensive knowledge of Mexico wants Mexican heavy trucks on American highways.
Since the Brits don't share a border with a 3rd world armpit like Mexico, British laws with respect to foreign vehicles are irrelevant to this argument.
As for Dobb's being a racist, it is a way to attack the man and not his ideas. BTW, his wife is Mexican-American and in the US legally! |
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Dude Ranch
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| posts like this wont go anywhere because this board is full of Canadian and Americans who grew up in the 80's,90's, a time when political correctness was drilled through our skulls at school, the media and society so much it is impossible to have any rational discussion with most people when any mention of 'race' comes up |
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mises
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ontheway
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| it seems that you may have overlooked the fact that not many vehicles actually drive directly to or from Britain |
Do you know what the channel tunnel is?
(I'm glad you accept Palin as a silly person: one of the few.) |
Just noticed this.
Yeah, I do know what the chunnel is, and I know that only trains go through it. No cars drive through the channel tunnel.
The Republicans would have been better off had they left Palin sitting as Governor of Alaska. She is interesting and might be likable as a person, but she is unprepared for national office, and that's putting it nicely. All of the controversy should make her quite wealthy, even if she is never nominated for another office, so she can't complain. But she frequently comes across as silly, stupid, or uninformed - even though sometimes she's correct in her views.
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RufusW
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Rufus,
Have you considered that Mexico is a developing country with minimal rule of law? As such, safety inspections for vehicles are poorly regulated and slipping the inspector some money will guarantee any vehicle will pass. |
Dobbs was not talking about the quality of the drivers or the vehicles... he was obviously supposing other things. |
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ytuque
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ytuque wrote: |
Rufus,
Have you considered that Mexico is a developing country with minimal rule of law? As such, safety inspections for vehicles are poorly regulated and slipping the inspector some money will guarantee any vehicle will pass. |
Dobbs was not talking about the quality of the drivers or the vehicles... he was obviously supposing other things. |
What other things was he supposing? |
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