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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: OMG. Pollution in China. This will make you cry. |
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| On October 21st 2009 I posted �Amazing Pictures, Pollution in China� featuring the winner of W. Eugene Smith Grant in Humanistic Photography, Lu Guang�s documentary project �Pollution in China�. This post was an instant sensation that attracted viewers from all over the world. In less than 20 days, this post was viewed by over 475,000 unique visitors in 204 countries with over 510,000 page views. As for today it had 3,327 retweets on twitter and 929 comments. Thank you everyone! It was both surprising and inspiring to see how much people around the world cared about the pollution issues in China and the environment of the planet earth. And of course Lu Guang�s haunting photos were truly breathtaking. His artistic and insightful work of art exposed real urgent issues of people living at the bottom of the society in China, the side of China people of the world usually don�t get to see. |
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/
In other news, hippies are still having difficulty in defining the pollution of Canada's oilsands, the so-called "dirtiest on the planet":
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2209962
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The investigator discovered, instead, that Dr. O'Connor's public statements about the health of Fort Chipewyan's residents contained "mistruths, inaccuracies and unconfirmed information."
The doctor had told reporters of a man who had died of colon cancer at the young age of 33. It was fiction. "No patient died at age 33 from colon cancer as reported by Dr. O'Connor," says the report.
"These weren't misdiagnoses; they were diagnoses that never occurred," says Hakique Virani, one of the three Health Canada physicians who lodged the original complaint with the college. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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From this book (page 17)
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| China's coal pollution, so immense that it creates smog on the West Coast of the United States, kills 400,000 Chinese each year |
That's a helluva number |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting these shocking photos.
There is no doubt China is developing its economy at the expense of its environment.
Conditions are especially bad in the countrysides, lots of them have become garbage dumps for the cities nearby, or locations for factories causing heavy pollution...
Its noticeable how dramatically the cancer incidence has increased in the past 20 years.
Its especially sad to see how ignorant some local governments are, and how powerless the central government is in controlling pollution. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Panda wrote: |
Thanks for posting these shocking photos.
There is no doubt China is developing its economy at the expense of its environment.
Conditions are especially bad in the countrysides, lots of them have become garbage dumps for the cities nearby, or locations for factories causing heavy pollution...
Its noticeable how dramatically the cancer incidence has increased in the past 20 years.
Its especially sad to see how ignorant some local governments are, and how powerless the central government is in controlling pollution. |
Actually, China has been consulting with green tech firms for a considerable time now. They're at a point where they absolutely have to start building/operating green or they are going to collapse--although it may be hard to believe this with all that "superpower" talk going around. It's just that the country is so damn big it's going to be a while before these changes can be fully realized (or come as close to being fully realized as they can ever be).
Welps, double digit economic growth for over a decade will do that to you.
Lived in Shanghai for a while, did some running, occasionally would hack up black stuff. AW YEAH! |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| As soon as the West implements a carbon tax on imported goods, I have a feeling China will be shaping up its act. |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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China may appear to be serious about climate change, but they're not. More importantly, they're definitely not concerned about real pollution; as seen in the photos.
The Chinese throw a little money on big solar and wind projects to buy slack in Copenhagen. And boosts their Global PR with Left Leaning socialists/politicians. But is China truly "leading the west" on climate change? Absolutely not:
The civilized world (the west) is paying to build turbine and solar factories in China with Western money. The Chinese know that stupid westerners and silly Obama-types will buy their turbines and panels. The Chinese do not care about the climate: this is a low cost solution for them politically. Domestically, the Communist party doesn't have to worry about any opposition in upcoming elections. It is a win win win for them:
1)Gives them standing and leverage at UNFCCC Talks and raises the global view of China, diverting attention away from things like industrial pollution. Or serious Chinese problems.
2)Encourages Foreign Investment in China for Exports to the West in a new market.
3)Allows them access to manufacturing technologies and products from Western Companies.
The Chinese are building token Solar and Wind Farms to capitalize on what is going to be a 2 Trillion Dollar Business over the next 25 years. (A doomed-to-fail Western Energy Policy, but we'll save that for another thread) They're communists. But they're not THAT stupid. |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| yep. Those pics represent the ugliness. I am in the most polluted part of the world. It is overdone. Really. I am living here now in Shanxi Province. I understand the ideas. It is not that bad. Show me the best and worst of China, and other country. |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Sickening. Bloody barbarians, no other word for it (the people doing the poluting, not the people of China in general.) |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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jesus...speechless really...
I still dont understand why poor people would want to bring children into their hell !!!!
at least have responsibilty and don't bring anyone into this world who will just suffer! |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| How fucking depressing |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:29 am Post subject: |
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The world needs to see this.
I wonder how long it will be before Chinese hackers attempt to kill that site? |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: |
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A real man, president and patriot would not destroy his country in some crazy mad rush to become "number 1" economically. Real leaders would not sacrifice the health of their people and their environment in some ego-trip to become "number 1".
The problem is that in Asia you have a lot of little men with very short-term thinking who will do anything for money. A lot of businessmen who trash their environments with harmful projects for short term gain. |
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fortysixyou
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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The question is "why?" and the answer is "money".
We (humans) are a cancer on this planet.
I'd give my life for a population-reducing cataclysm.
We'll continue raping this earth for money until that happens. |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| My last research project in college was on China's water troubles. I did a 10 minute presentation (wish I had these photos). There was one Chinese study abroad student who looked somewhat oddly at me for putting out all the photos and data on the environmental problems, but loved the poem from Mao Zedong (Swimming) I included. |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Deep Thirteen wrote: |
| My last research project in college was on China's water troubles. I did a 10 minute presentation (wish I had these photos). There was one Chinese study abroad student who looked somewhat oddly at me for putting out all the photos and data on the environmental problems, but loved the poem from Mao Zedong (Swimming) I included. |
I would say adding the poem is a good idea as well, that one is gold.
The first 2 years I was in Korea, I was super offended whenever my Canaidan ex-boyfriend brought up criticism to China.
I felt like: China is my wife, even I am willing to beat her to death, its none of your business.
To people from a country showing still far lass than enough respect to humanity, you westerners have to be more patient, thanks for your attention  |
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