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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| What should the surcharge be on a taxi from Seoul to Incheon Airport? NOBODY on the forum has provided an amount. If so, what was it? I feel a 10,000won surcharge on a 31,000won fare is too much considering he was expecting a return fare which would have been easy to get at 9:30am. And I didn't feel like offering him a lesser surcharge of 5,000won once he started swearing at me for refusing to give him 10,000won. |
You are trying to justify your stiffing the driver by stating he would just pick someone up. It's just as likely that there already was a huge que of Seoul taxis waiting there and that he may have had to wait an hour to get a ride back which is why one pays the surcharge when leaving the city.
What happened was you assumed that the meter rate applied to all fares when the reality is that it only applies to in city fares, and you're trying to justify your stiffing the driver because you were ignorant of this reality and blaming the driver for not informing you.
Technically, you are to pay the cost of returning to the city limits, so your taxi fare should be upwards of 50,000 Won. But because he can get a person going into Seoul if he sticks around a while, your driver only asked for 10,000 to pay his wages while he waits for a fare instead of the 20,000 he was rightfully entitled to.
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| And I didn't become defensive about this whole thing until you stated that I stiffed the drive |
Why get defensive over a simple observation? You stiffed him. It's not as though I'm making this up. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Why should he be entitled to an inflated surcharge when he was expecting to find a return fare back to Seoul? |
That was my whole point: If he's not allowed in the airport queue, then he could not have been expecting a return fare back to Seoul. |
Can you read? My POINT is that he was expecting a return fare as most people wanting a taxi at the airport are going to Seoul. |
Now I can see how you lost your passport. |
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iwacima
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| iwacima wrote: |
| What should the surcharge be on a taxi from Seoul to Incheon Airport? NOBODY on the forum has provided an amount. If so, what was it? I feel a 10,000won surcharge on a 31,000won fare is too much considering he was expecting a return fare which would have been easy to get at 9:30am. And I didn't feel like offering him a lesser surcharge of 5,000won once he started swearing at me for refusing to give him 10,000won. |
You are trying to justify your stiffing the driver by stating he would just pick someone up. It's just as likely that there already was a huge que of Seoul taxis waiting there and that he may have had to wait an hour to get a ride back which is why one pays the surcharge when leaving the city.
What happened was you assumed that the meter rate applied to all fares when the reality is that it only applies to in city fares, and you're trying to justify your stiffing the driver because you were ignorant of this reality and blaming the driver for not informing you.
Technically, you are to pay the cost of returning to the city limits, so your taxi fare should be upwards of 50,000 Won. But because he can get a person going into Seoul if he sticks around a while, your driver only asked for 10,000 to pay his wages while he waits for a fare instead of the 20,000 he was rightfully entitled to.
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| And I didn't become defensive about this whole thing until you stated that I stiffed the drive |
Why get defensive over a simple observation? You stiffed him. It's not as though I'm making this up. |
Why don't you call the Seoul Tourist Information office? They felt that the guy tried to rip me off by asking for another 10,000won. Ususally taxis going to the airport DO NOT ask for a surcharge and IF they do it's usually an amount much less than 10,000won. If he was going to charge me the inflated 10,000won surcharge he should of told me BEFORE I got into the taxi.
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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I know this won't help you now. But... Why didnt you ask him for the fare before getting into the taxi? Anytime, I travel into a differnt city, I ask the taxi for a flat rate. I got from Seoul to Cheong Ju for 70,000 won. by asking for a metered ride.
My feeling is that the taxi tried to stiff you because you couldn't argue back with him. He is wrong for trying to take advantage of you. But you were also wrong for dashing.
Running out of the cab and refusing to pay him was the right thing for you at the time. Now that your passport is gone, it wasn't. Sometimes, things have a way of working themselves out. If you get your passport back, will you offer to give the driver that 10,000 won? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think I tried to stiff him. He wanted an additional 10,000won on top of the 31,000won fare. |
The meter rate is strictly for in-city fares and you took a Seoul taxi into another city. In Korea, when you take a taxi out of the city and into another you pay a surcharge simply because the driver then has to drive back or sit around wherever you went to until they get a fare back to Seoul. Normally they tell you the rate up front, but not always because to major locations all the taxi drivers generally charge the same surcharge so sometimes it's overlooked and simply billed upon arrival.
So, yes, you stiffed him. You didn't realize you were, but you did.
If you wanted to only pay the meter rate, you would have needed to have taken an Incheon taxi which could be found around many local subway stations, or just had someone phone a taxi company and see if they have an Incheon taxi already in Seoul near you that would pick you up. |
I spoke yesterday with a Seoul taxi driver (exmployed by Tongjin Taxi) and asked him about what Gord had said. He confirmed that when you hire a Seoul cab to travel to a destination outside Seoul, the typical practice is to negotiate a rate with the passenger beforehand and that yes, in effect, there is a surcharge.
However, he strongly asserted that all fares from Seoul to Incheon International Airport are metered and that there is no surcharge at all. His reasons for this being: (1) the metered fare is sufficiently large as it is; and (2) for public policy reasons, the government (local, national?) prohibits taxi drivers, no matter where their coaches are registered, from charging a surcharge for ferrying passengers to the airport.
The passenger should, of course, pay the 6,000-odd won bridge toll. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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of course there is going to be a surcharge , because Taxi drivers outside their regions are technically not permitted to pick up passengers for local- inter city trips .
the driver has to return to his city to pick another fare unless he can find a passenger going to the taxi drivers home city. |
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peppergirl
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Asked my husband and he said (he's not a taxi driver nor an expert) that they normally charge about 20% surcharge if they drive to another city.
By the way, did you get your passport back yet? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Jeezus.....I must be the most disbelieved poster on this board.
Once again, there is no surcharge when taking a taxi from Seoul to the Incheon International Airport.
"There is no additional charge when crossing the regional border between city or province since Incheon International Airport is protected area for applying additional charges."
Incheon International Airport Homepage |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Seems there's a fair bit of confusion about what the deal is here, that quote from Dogbert seems to me to be from the Airport to the city, not necessarily the other way round.
Isn't it reasonable to assume that the driver didn't know for certain either?
Anyway, the information about buses to and from the airport is here and I hope you get your passport back. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Seems there's a fair bit of confusion about what the deal is here, that quote from Dogbert seems to me to be from the Airport to the city, not necessarily the other way round.
Isn't it reasonable to assume that the driver didn't know for certain either?
Anyway, the information about buses to and from the airport is here and I hope you get your passport back. |
Okay, but I read that as being applicable to trips to and from the airport.
Don't you live and work out there? What has your experience been? |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I work there and travel back and forth on the limousine bus (only 4,500 won each way if you're an employee- but I'm just rubbing it in).
Whenever I've had a load of luggage I've gone for a deluxe (black) taxi, (the company was paying so I thought why not?).
This time though, I acquired a conscience and got what I thought was a cheaper silver cab. Turned out to be an Incheon/Gyonggi taxi from stand 20 and he charged me a 20,000 won surcharge because he was crossing to another city...
Next time I'll go to stand 18. |
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shawner88
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| You have to pay 9,000 won every day, James? That adds up over a month. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah but my company pay and I tell them it costs 12,000 a day. |
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