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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Moslty the food. Everything else sucks ass. |
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shifter2009

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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bbq. Mom's macaroni salad, corn on the cob straight from the farm, spare ribs off the grill and a side salad, that my friends, is a little slice of heaven. |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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The wide variety of television shows. There is something for everyone--action, thriller, sci-fi, romance, teen, medical, reality, music, and so on. The production quality is usually very high for the top shows, too. One thing that irks me about Korea is the way even their top programs look like they were filmed on a hand-held digital camera. I also can't stand the slap stick comedy shows with their scripts and fake "reality" or the weepy dramas.
The variety of food. Chinese, Thai, Italian, Spanish, Tex-Mex, Vietnamese, Ethiopian, French, German, even Korean.
It's a large country so it has some really gorgeous scenery.
Ethnically diverse. Even though that's not true in many places, there are still huge populations of recent and old immigrants. Sometimes, they even place nicely.
The education system. Many schools sure as hell aren't good, but I prefer it over the Korean style any day. I went to really good schools as a teenager.
The emphasis on individuality over fitting in. Growing up, we always had those cheesy posters in our classrooms with (for example) a field of thousands of yellow tulips and only one red tulip. Or there were always sayings about loving yourself no matter what others said. I may be a "hippie" but I really do think kids should be taught at very young ages that it's okay to stand out and we shouldn't all look or think the same.
The U.S., like many western nations, hosts thousands of different organizations for human rights, poverty, domestic and child abuse, and the environment.
People are more likely to strike up random conversations with strangers in stores or on the street. Even in NYC, a girl at a stoplight can still ask, "Where did you get your jacket?" to a stranger and get a friendly response. Living in a huge city, I passed a lot of the same people on the way to work and we eventually started smiling and greeting each other. Now, I pass the same people on the way to work and we always pretend like we don't see each other. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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ardis wrote: |
The emphasis on individuality over fitting in. Growing up, we always had those cheesy posters in our classrooms with (for example) a field of thousands of yellow tulips and only one red tulip. Or there were always sayings about loving yourself no matter what others said. I may be a "hippie" but I really do think kids should be taught at very young ages that it's okay to stand out and we shouldn't all look or think the same.
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This is an illusion. In the west we pay lip service to "indivisulaity" but the reality is that no matter where you want to go or what you want to be a part of there is a status quo, call them cliques...whatever and if you don't tow the party line of afforementioned groups you'll soon learn the real value of your individulaity. I had many friends who were hippie bongsters, freedom children, hemp lovers....etc....who eventually graduated from college and went on to conform to whatever socioeconomic group, professional cartel they desired. Hemp children who wished to be lawyers learned how to wear suits and not act so dependent upon the weed. Others followed accordingly. Guys who wanted to date a gla who didn't look like she'd slept in the same clothes for weeks had to clean up their acts. Conformity is a part of life. Other than that you can just be a loner and an outcast. I think you might be confusing a person's college years to the rest of our relevant lives. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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xingyiman wrote: |
ardis wrote: |
The emphasis on individuality over fitting in. Growing up, we always had those cheesy posters in our classrooms with (for example) a field of thousands of yellow tulips and only one red tulip. Or there were always sayings about loving yourself no matter what others said. I may be a "hippie" but I really do think kids should be taught at very young ages that it's okay to stand out and we shouldn't all look or think the same.
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This is an illusion. In the west we pay lip service to "indivisulaity" but the reality is that no matter where you want to go or what you want to be a part of there is a status quo, call them cliques...whatever and if you don't tow the party line of afforementioned groups you'll soon learn the real value of your individulaity. I had many friends who were hippie bongsters, freedom children, hemp lovers....etc....who eventually graduated from college and went on to conform to whatever socioeconomic group, professional cartel they desired. Hemp children who wished to be lawyers learned how to wear suits and not act so dependent upon the weed. Others followed accordingly. Guys who wanted to date a gla who didn't look like she'd slept in the same clothes for weeks had to clean up their acts. Conformity is a part of life. Other than that you can just be a loner and an outcast. I think you might be confusing a person's college years to the rest of our relevant lives. |
But I think there IS some truth to individualism in the States. Lots of random scenarios get posted on this site (i.e., what should I do about my K-gf's dad? What should I do if some guy is claiming blood money? What should I do when, etc.) and people seem to know EXACTLY how Koreans will operate in each situation.
Who knows what an American would do in most situations? There is no hive mind/thinking similar to what people on these boards imply Koreans have. |
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steveinincheon
Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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The wilderness - I mean real wilderness where you can hike for days with no signs of civilization
The National Parks - Great scenery and wilderness (see above)
Live music - In any big or midsize city there will be a number of venues to see any type of live music you want. Rock. Hip Hop. Folk. Bluegrass. World Music. Punk. doesn't matter its all available
The Beer. no I'm not talking about Nattie Lite here.
Roadtrips. Although I wish there was better public transport, American roadtrips rock!
Music Festivals - similar to live music but requires a separate listing just for the atmosphere and overall vibe. Again great diversity here - you can go to a Country or Gospel fest with thousands of rednecks in cowboy hats, or a hippie music fest with stoners who haven't showered since Jerry Garcia died.
The diversity in climates and landscapes - this is the only country in the world that is located both in the arctic and the tropics.
How Americans (as mentioned by the OP) are quick to pick and choose their likes and interests and not conform to strongly to any one label.
Free refills - ok this one leads to too many disgusting fat bodies - but I like free refills on my coffee and drinks. If only this extended to the delicious beers as well. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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They speak English.
And they have twinkies... and ho hos.... and ring dings... |
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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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A lot's been covered so I'll just say the variety.
The different foods, cultures, arts, activities, scenery, etc.
Truly something for everyone. |
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drkalbi

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I like that a lot of people don't like the US. |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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xingyiman wrote: |
ardis wrote: |
The emphasis on individuality over fitting in. Growing up, we always had those cheesy posters in our classrooms with (for example) a field of thousands of yellow tulips and only one red tulip. Or there were always sayings about loving yourself no matter what others said. I may be a "hippie" but I really do think kids should be taught at very young ages that it's okay to stand out and we shouldn't all look or think the same.
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This is an illusion. In the west we pay lip service to "indivisulaity" but the reality is that no matter where you want to go or what you want to be a part of there is a status quo, call them cliques...whatever and if you don't tow the party line of afforementioned groups you'll soon learn the real value of your individulaity. I had many friends who were hippie bongsters, freedom children, hemp lovers....etc....who eventually graduated from college and went on to conform to whatever socioeconomic group, professional cartel they desired. Hemp children who wished to be lawyers learned how to wear suits and not act so dependent upon the weed. Others followed accordingly. Guys who wanted to date a gla who didn't look like she'd slept in the same clothes for weeks had to clean up their acts. Conformity is a part of life. Other than that you can just be a loner and an outcast. I think you might be confusing a person's college years to the rest of our relevant lives. |
Hmmm, then I guess you know some pretty different people than myself. Almost all of my parents friends (and many of my teachers) were and still are amazing individuals who didn't sacrifice everything for "The Man." |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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drkalbi wrote: |
I like that a lot of people don't like the US. |
Why? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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The Lobster Pot in Provincetown
Char Grill in Raleigh
Danny's BBQ in St. Pete |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I like how you don't have to eat American food or defend it every day, unlike some countries I won't mention. You can have food from everywhere, and Americans are proud of having so many choices rather than whining about how it diminishes their own culture or sabotaging foreign dishes with ketchup and hamburger.
Sometimes I like the frankness of Americans (and Australians). They tend to say what they think.
Americans work hard. And they work productively, which matters more.
I like American women (alright, I like any women). But American women have been much nicer to me than Canadian women in my life.
The democratizing ethos can go too far, but generally I like American meetings. If someone has a good idea, it's a good idea, and it doesn't have to come from the boss.
Americans have made bad military choices. But they mostly don't hide behind someone else's skirt. Canadians sometimes are right in criticizing the US's involvements, but without their army we'd be extinct.
My most contentious statement. Often US foreign actions have been based on protecting oil, money, or influence. But sometimes the US gets involved because it's the right thing to do, and they send troops or implement sanctions over humanitarian or philanthropic motives. When was the last time China lifted a finger internationally for anything but its own benefit? |
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009 Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I love the diversity.
I love the food.
I love that if you say you don't like a certain food people will not think you are personally attacking the country and their culture.
I love Halloween, I love the 4th of July and I love the scenery and the wonderful big cities that are full of life and culture and art.
I love that many people value the lives of animals and they aren't just something to eat.
I love my family and friends.
I love the National Parks.
I love being able to watch TV shows without having to wait until they're uploaded onto MegaVideo.
I love the variety of music and even the worst songs are better than K-pop. |
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drkalbi

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
drkalbi wrote: |
I like that a lot of people don't like the US. |
Why? |
Because I get enjoyment in other people's suffering. |
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