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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Mollybloom,
Youtuber has no kids..... |
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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Mollybloom,
Youtuber has no kids..... |
Sorry, I should have clarified that in my last post the third paragraph was intended for other posters. I'll edit that now. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Mollybloom,
Youtuber has no kids..... |
And has shown himself to know nothing about this situation. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed Captain! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Ok Molly here is my input for what its worth!
Note: Our son was born in Korea and only attended daycare and a few specific classes (drawing, swimming). I know numerous people with school age mixed kids in Korea so here goes:
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| did you put your child in a Korean school or international one when it came time? |
We were debating that very point when we moved away from Korea. We had no intention of leaving but life tosses you curveballs sometimes. Anyway, we had reached the near conclusion that we would put our son in a regular public elementary school. He is mixed and speaks fluent Korean so that guides the choice. If your kids are not mixed and speak no Korea it would quite the learning curve to send them to a Korean school.
As far as the people I know with kids in Korea, it is about 80% vs 20%.
80% send their kids to public school and 20% went the international school route. The decision sometimes hinged on cost (international schools can be more expensive), often hinged on values (mixed kids knowing their Korean culture well), access to schools in their area (good public schools vs bad ones).
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| How did you make your decision, and what did you base it on? |
See above
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| Do any of you have older children in the middle/high school system for some time? |
We have some friends with middle school level kids. Two couples with High School level kids. All are mixed kids.
Some arrived here after living in Canada or the US (ie they met there and moved to Korea), others have been here for the long haul.
Their kids are all in the public school system. These schools are in Busan, Seoul, Masan and Incheon along with one couple in Gyungju.
For the most part things are excellent. Obviously those kids that started their education in the US and Canada had a learning curve to deal with. Again, all these kids speak Korea fluently...there was therefore no language barrier.
Hope this helps in some way! |
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neandergirl

Joined: 23 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Hi Molly,
Congrats on your upcoming nuptuals!
I didn't have my child in Korea but knew and worked with a number of people who have. I think a large part depends on, as someone's already noted, whether the kids are mixed, and also what their ages are.
Younger kids, especially babies and toddlers, do get a lot of positive attention. Occassionally there've been negative comments re the mixed heritage but over all it seems to be positive or neutral.
I do know a number of people with older mixed kids and they do have more negative stories, but by far the most negative stories I've heard have come from people with older, non Korean/non-mixed kids. One single mum I knew had an 8 year old in the local school (with morning and afternoon classes in Korean; she actually spoke a good bit of the language and happily had chats with our Korean co-workers) and her daughter had a terrible time with being bullied and/or marginalized by the other students and a number of the teachers. They ended up moving to HK after about 18 mos here.
Of course, none of my friends lived in Seoul or Busan - things might be different there. |
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meangradin

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| 80% send their kids to public school and 20% went the international school route. The decision sometimes hinged on cost (international schools can be more expensive), often hinged on values (mixed kids knowing their Korean culture well), access to schools in their area (good public schools vs bad ones). |
I can't speak for other international schools, but the only one in my city charges around 12 million a year, to be taught by drunkards WITH teaching degrees.
Also, I think early childhood education in Korea is second to no country. My son's kindie is sublime; he takes dance, English, cooking, Chinese and many other lessons, plus they are always going on cultural excursions. He actually gets upset if he can't go to school. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| meangradin wrote: |
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| 80% send their kids to public school and 20% went the international school route. The decision sometimes hinged on cost (international schools can be more expensive), often hinged on values (mixed kids knowing their Korean culture well), access to schools in their area (good public schools vs bad ones). |
I can't speak for other international schools, but the only one in my city charges around 12 million a year, to be taught by drunkards WITH teaching degrees.
Also, I think early childhood education in Korea is second to no country. My son's kindie is sublime; he takes dance, English, cooking, Chinese and many other lessons, plus they are always going on cultural excursions. He actually gets upset if he can't go to school. |
Like everything else in Korea. All kindies are not created equal. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Of course, none of my friends lived in Seoul or Busan - things might be different there. |
I can imagine that it'd possibly vary from one region to another.
In Seoul, I don't think many people would bat an eye at a mixed kid (beyond saying... 'awe, how cute'). |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Mollybloom,
Youtuber has no kids..... |
And has shown himself to know nothing about this situation. |
But...but...but he heard it on Dave's, so it MUST be true....  |
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Jeonmunka
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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God, not this same repetitive argument again about half kids and treatment in Korea. Cripes, again, people without kids of their own come on and talk about the bad treatment etc etc ...
Ugh. The repetitive nature of this site sux.
Anyway, you don't have kids yet Molly, just go with the flow and when you do have them smile and be happy and if there are problems then post about them.
However, you and your (future) children may be better off here than many other places in the World. It depends. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've written alot about my kids being in public school so you can search my posts if you want to know more about our experience.
We came back to Korea when my kids (mixed) were in grade 2 and kindergarten (grade 1 and 3 in Canada). Both kids learned Korean here.
My daughter is now in grade 4 and has some of the highest marks in her class. My son has some of the lowest marks in his class. Korean teachers don't really like to deal with the parents so it's hard to help my kids to improve.
I teach at the same school that my kids go to so that I would be close to them and so I can have some control over their schooling. It's worked out so far.
I personally think that a childhood in Korea is great. There are tons of other kids to be friends with and if you are in a good area, most parents will love you (ie free English play dates). Ice cream is cheap and it's safe for the kids to buy it themselves. Korean kids play lots of games such as gonggi or dakji. Hogwans for swimming, soccer etc are cheap, close by and have buses to pick up the kids.
But the older you get the harder it gets here...especially if the kids don't study well. This is our last year, for many reasons, but if it was my choice I'd stay here until my daughter was in grade 6. If you get into middle school and high school, the education (ie hogwans) gets more expensive. Also, clothing, baby stuff etc is very expensive here.
And, like the other posters who've lived here, no bad things happened to my kids because they are mixed....unless you consider the endless comments about how great their Korean speaking ability is and how 'epuda' they are.
**I also know 2 families with kids who are as blond as they come and they are planning to stay in Korea for the long term. But they do homeschooling. If I had blond kids, I would probably send them to public school. Once the other students know who your kids are, no one really cares what they look like....personality is the defining factor. |
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