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[Rusty Shackleford]

http://blog.american.com/?p=7572

http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/25/what-you-do-in-the-private-sec?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+%28Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Simply astonishing.

[Fox]

I like how public sector work is evidently "not a real job." So everyone in Obama's cabinet currently "doesn't have a real job?" Public sector work is equivalent to being unemployed?

[mises]

I remember watching a doc on ABC about the Obama white house. There was a lady who ran a consulting firm in DC for 18 months. She was the goto girl for "business" because she had actually ran a business.

Rhambo studied dance. And the rest have JD's.

[Rusty Shackleford]

[thomas pars]

remember when Bush appointed former coal executives working for the EPA, or former pharmacutical executives working for the FDA,... working
to push through "clean coal" or weaken consumer rights....i'll take the
current situation over this any day.

[Fox]

[Kuros]

[Rusty Shackleford]

The "Real" part was definitely a jibe. My Mother worked in the public sector for 30 years and would skin me alive if I went around disparaging her career choice.

I agree with at least the top three on Fox's list of govt services. They provide a direct benefit that wouldn't exist without direct govt provision. It just a shame it wipes out that good work with the utter waste that is the other 99% of govt expenditure.

[Fox]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I'm taking it that the OP's ideals are the chronically indebted plantation owner Thomas Jefferson and the highly successful engineer Herbert Hoover who was a bust as president. We could also throw in US Grant just for fun. Or there is Ike. Never held a 'real' job in his life but turned out pretty well overall.

My point: There isn't much relationship between success in jobs inside/outside politics.

[Reggie]

The way these politicians are expanding the public sector at a time when the private sector is withering away in number and per capita income strongly suggests that they don't realize that all public jobs exist as a result of the residual wealth generated from the private sector or money borrowed from foreign lenders who will have to be paid by the private sector or America will go into default or hyperinflation.

Congress votes itself pay raises when the per capita income in the private sector is falling. They're going to send 34,000 more troops to Afghanistan when the number of people employed in the private sector keeps falling.

Hopefully, the California economy blowing up from all of the public workers making six figure salaries and six figure pensions will be the wakeup call. The public sector is supposed to work for the private sector, not the other way around, but the piggish public sector Americans are financially cannibalizing the very Americans their own paychecks depend on. Sometimes in nature, parasites take too much and kill the host and that's what's happening in the US economy.

Whenever I talk with business owners, they're complaining about the economy. Public sector employees think things are wonderful. Gee, I wonder why.

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Reggie]

Here's an article about Congress giving itself a pay increase: http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/congress-raise-ethics/1620 Meanwhile, the job losses in the private sector have been enormous.

February 2009: 697,000 private sector job losses http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE5232V420090304

March 2009: 742,000 lost jobs in the private sector: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5303F820090401

Let's look at April. Check out this article: http://www.conservatismtoday.com/my_weblog/2009/05/good-news-only-539000-jobs-lost-in-april.html There were 611,000 private sector job losses but an increase of 72,000 government employees. In other words, a lot more public sector pigs riding in the wagon with 611,000 fewer private sector employees to pull the wagon.

We had a terrific month in October with "only" 203,000 workers in the private sector losing their jobs. http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/04/adp-october-job-private-sector-losses-slip-but-still-hit-203-0/

Here's an interactive map of unemployment in the US. http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html Notice how the lights go out east of the Mississippi River, but Washington DC stands out like a lit candle in an otherwise dark room since it sucks money from the places that have gone dark.

Now, let's look at California. 6,133 retired state employees receive pensions of between $100,000 and $499,674 per year. This website lists them by name, pension amount, and employer: http://www.californiapensionreform.com/database.asp?vttable=calpers It looks like educators are the biggest culprits: http://www.ocregister.com/articles/school-211721-district-pensions.html

The average pay for a fireman in Los Angeles is $117,000 http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_12175241?source=rv Look at the pay for firefighters in Vallejo: http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2008/05/it-pays-to-be-firefighter-in-vallejo-ca.html Look at the pay in Union City and Fremont. The firefighters in Fremont receive an average of $137,404 in salary and over $29,000 in overtime. http://www.insidebayarea.com/argus/ci_7222696

Check out these government employees in San Francisco. It looks like it's the "heroic" firefighters and cops mopping up there too. http://www.businessinsider.com/damn-california-state-employees-get-paid-a-lot-2009-5

Meanwhile, the California state budget is deep in the hole. The state and the pension fund are, for all practical purposes, broke and bankrupt.

[Gopher]

[asylum seeker]