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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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				| My friend back in the States just linked me to this. I thought it was really interesting. What do you all think? 
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	  | A South Korean man has been fined one million won ($865; �520) for making discriminatory remarks against an Indian professor. 
 The conviction is the country's first involving racist remarks towards a foreigner, Incheon District Court officials told local media.
 
 The man yelled racist comments and said "Arab! Arab!" at the Indian man while on a bus in July, the judge said.
 
 The professor felt publically insulted by the comments, he added.
 
 The 31-year-old South Korean had objected to Bonogit Hussain talking loudly on a bus.
 
 Mr Hussain had been in South Korea since 2007 and had studied for a master's degree from Seoul's SungKongHoe University, later working as a research professor there.
 
 Park could have faced up to one year in prison and 2 million won in fines for public insult, Associated Press reported.
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		| VanIslander 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it? 
 interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.
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		| Konglishman 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:19 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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	  | My friend back in the States just linked me to this. I thought it was really interesting. What do you all think? 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8382087.stm
 
 
 
 
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	  | A South Korean man has been fined one million won ($865; �520) for making discriminatory remarks against an Indian professor. 
 The conviction is the country's first involving racist remarks towards a foreigner, Incheon District Court officials told local media.
 
 The man yelled racist comments and said "Arab! Arab!" at the Indian man while on a bus in July, the judge said.
 
 The professor felt publically insulted by the comments, he added.
 
 The 31-year-old South Korean had objected to Bonogit Hussain talking loudly on a bus.
 
 Mr Hussain had been in South Korea since 2007 and had studied for a master's degree from Seoul's SungKongHoe University, later working as a research professor there.
 
 Park could have faced up to one year in prison and 2 million won in fines for public insult, Associated Press reported.
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 Actually, this topic has already been much discussed in several threads.  I guess the only thing new in the article is that the court case has been concluded.  Frankly, I am happy for Dr. Hussain.  Its not every day that the Korean justice system rules in favor of a foreigner.
 
 And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.
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		| fermentation 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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	  | And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.
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 Assault and saying something are two totally different things.
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		| CentralCali 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | VanIslander wrote: |  
	  | one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it? 
 interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.
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 It's on the Korea Times.
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		| bry0000000 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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	  | Konglishman wrote: |  
	  | And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.
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 Assault and saying something are two totally different things.
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 If he were fined for assault, I would have been happy, even though I think a much stiffer fine should be levied against him. But being fined for shouting "Arab!"? It's a little disconcerting IMO.
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		| Konglishman 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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	  | Konglishman wrote: |  
	  | And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.
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 Assault and saying something are two totally different things.
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 Yes, I am aware of that, but I guess that I am more happy with the fact that something was done even if done for debatable reasons.
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		| nautilus 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case |   |  
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	  | bry0000000 wrote: |  
	  | If he were fined for assault, I would have been happy, even though I think a much stiffer fine should be levied against him. But being fined for shouting "Arab!"? It's a little disconcerting IMO.
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 I'm guessing that the Korean lady did not push the assault charge...and that the other very offensive insults that were hurled are not being reported by the K-media.
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		| Old Gil 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Assault is not battery. Insulting somebody can be construed as assault, at least in the US. |  | 
	
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		| You 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Oh, wow. I didn't know there was also an assault. Does anyone have the news link to that part of the story? |  | 
	
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		| Konglishman 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Oh, wow. I didn't know there was also an assault. Does anyone have the news link to that part of the story? |  
 A poster who knows Dr. Hussain, first alerted us to this information.  His user id is edmundo.  Also, I remember reading a small news snippet somewhere which included the assault in the report, but I cannot seem to find that news report at the moment.
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		| GoldMember 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Are court imposed fines in Korea similar to parking and speeding fines? Meaning if the person doesn't pay, then they just don't pay, end of story. |  | 
	
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		| Tiberious aka Sparkles 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:32 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | VanIslander wrote: |  
	  | one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it? 
 interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.
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 Saw it on MBC News today.
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		| Murakano 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| well I wasn`t expecting this outcome  as I thought the Korean guy would get away with it as they usually do......so in a way it`s a half decent start to win with a very slight bit of shaming for Korea in the international world . |  | 
	
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		| Cerberus 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| a very unsatisfying ending, but considering the circumstances probably the best one that could've been hoped for. 
 I'm waiting for the day where I read a headline titled:
 
 Korean man insults and screams at a foreigner and his Korean girlfriend and gets his ass kicked.
 
 if the same (or another) Mr. Kim  wants to give it a shot with yours truly, I'll be happy to oblige.
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