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Ya-ta Boy
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I am reacting to the apotheosizing of the Obamessiah by the Left and the Democrat salesmen false-pitching him as some type of antiwar president, a strategy which sadly and unfortunately worked.
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Ah, you fell for the media hype. You should have been listening to the candidate himself. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: Obama doesn't govern by the polls |
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Mises is gonna love this
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Obama, speaking with a group of columnists and reporters at a White House lunch today, conceded that Americans "are right to be concerned" about the additional expense of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. "But that's not how I make decisions. If I were basing my decisions on polls, then the banking system might have collapsed and you probably wouldn't have GM or Chrysler, and it's not clear that the economy would be growing again." |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Obama doesn't govern by the polls |
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Mises is gonna love this
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Obama, speaking with a group of columnists and reporters at a White House lunch today, conceded that Americans "are right to be concerned" about the additional expense of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. "But that's not how I make decisions. If I were basing my decisions on polls, then the banking system might have collapsed and you probably wouldn't have GM or Chrysler, and it's not clear that the economy would be growing again." |
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No, he doesn't govern by poll. Apparently, he asks himself "What would George Bush do?" |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| While it's perfectly OK to disagree with what Obama is doing, it is hypocritical not to acknowledge that he is doing what he said he would do. |
How about the Nobel Peace Prize? What would you call that?
He just confirmed, again, that his presidency will expand the wars in the Near East. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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So what?
Their shrill voices count for very little in Washington. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Obama doesn't govern by the polls |
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Mises is gonna love this
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Obama, speaking with a group of columnists and reporters at a White House lunch today, conceded that Americans "are right to be concerned" about the additional expense of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. "But that's not how I make decisions. If I were basing my decisions on polls, then the banking system might have collapsed and you probably wouldn't have GM or Chrysler, and it's not clear that the economy would be growing again." |
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No, he doesn't govern by poll. Apparently, he asks himself "What would George Bush do?" |
Now, you knew I was gonna love that! 
| Yat wrote: |
| Ah, you fell for the media hype. You should have been listening to the candidate himself. |
I complained about the media hype. I quoted the candidate himself. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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How about the Nobel Peace Prize? What would you call that?
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An award by the Norwegian Nobel committee? I thought everyone knew that. Is there a meaning to the question that I'm missing? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Something else mises should love:
I came across this retort that warmed the cockles of my heart and wanted to share.
Some guy wrote: "Could it be that you are being dishonest, or have you just become overwhelmed by the burdens of pointing out the Keynsian Hoax."
A second guy concurred with this home run:
"I think we obviously just don�t understand the Austrian School of Inaccurately Remembering Campaign Promises." |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Obama is the most platitudinous individual I've ever come across.
From today's speech: "I believe with every fibre of my being that we � as Americans � can still come together behind a common purpose"
A platitude-espousing automaton - he never runs out of em. Passionate supporters must be totally vacuous. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| An award by the Norwegian Nobel committee? I thought everyone knew that. Is there a meaning to the question that I'm missing? |
Yes, indeed. It is hypocritical, to say the least, for a guy who has accepted a Nobel Peace Prize, mostly in repudiation of the W. Bush administration's legacy, to expand rather than bring an end to, or at least downsize, that administration's ongoing wars. And it is hypocritical for you to ignore this, above, Ya-ta Boy. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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An immediate and total withdrawl from Afghanistan is the policy I support, . |
There are also a number of people in Afghanistan who support that policy...I believe they're called the Taliban...maybe you've heard of them? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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An immediate and total withdrawl from Afghanistan is the policy I support, . |
There are also a number of people in Afghanistan who support that policy...I believe they're called the Taliban...maybe you've heard of them? |
Yeah, I've heard of them. Unless you're suggesting that either:
1) We can simply leave troops there forever.
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2) Afghanistan's culture will somehow radically change in the near future such that groups like the Taliban can no longer gain an effective foothold there.
I don't see how the Taliban are relevent to this decision. They'll just take over again as soon as we leave anyway, and even if they didn't, they'd simply continue operating out of other countries. Our military isn't going to scourge radical Islam from the face of the planet, and I for one am not willing to play "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" with terrorists and chase them from country to country.
It's time to give up this ridiculous notion that soldiers can effectively combat terrorism and get our military out of Afghanistan. We've done more damage to ourselves with this stupid war than terrorism ever has. Maybe you don't care about that, but I do. |
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Rusty Shackleford
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Afghanistan is and always was a total waste of American time, money, and lives. I don't hate Obama for who he is: as a Left-leaning individual I don't have any bias against this President. But, I think he's making the wrong choice. America has paid sufficiently for this mistake, and it's time to stop paying -- both in money and lives -- and move on.
An immediate and total withdrawl from Afghanistan is the policy I support, and I don't consider such a withdrawl a "loss" or "failure" because we have no clearly stated, achievable military objectives there anyway. The only failure taking place is the failure to stop wasting American money and lives on a totally useless and incredibly obscure endeavor. |
What the crap. I agree with every word of one of Fox's posts. When was the last time that happened? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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I second the above...
Pity Obama doesn't have that "sense".....
DD
http://eflclassroom.com |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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An immediate and total withdrawl from Afghanistan is the policy I support, . |
There are also a number of people in Afghanistan who support that policy...I believe they're called the Taliban...maybe you've heard of them? |
Yeah, I've heard of them. Unless you're suggesting that either:
1) We can simply leave troops there forever.
or
2) Afghanistan's culture will somehow radically change in the near future such that groups like the Taliban can no longer gain an effective foothold there.
I don't see how the Taliban are relevent to this decision. They'll just take over again as soon as we leave anyway, and even if they didn't, they'd simply continue operating out of other countries. Our military isn't going to scourge radical Islam from the face of the planet, and I for one am not willing to play "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" with terrorists and chase them from country to country.
It's time to give up this ridiculous notion that soldiers can effectively combat terrorism and get our military out of Afghanistan. We've done more damage to ourselves with this stupid war than terrorism ever has. Maybe you don't care about that, but I do. |
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