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Forever



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: "Americans can't speak Korean" Reply with quote

http://asiancorrespondent.com/korea-beat/seoul%20government%20creating%20new%20volunteer%20english%20lessons#comments

so this guy is teaching Korean children

including - "Americans can't speak Korean"

and "answers questions from the children, who sit on their desks just like in an American classroom"
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak a little Korean, and I'm often asked if I'm Russian. I really look nothing like a Russian. Irish-German.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those Irish-Germans do tend to look quite Russian though, so that mistake is understandable.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't see any similarity. The Irish have an upturned nose.
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my, um, triumphant moments, was once on a bus, I heard the Korean guy telling his mate how foreigners cannot speak Korean. They were sitting next to the door, I was just across. The bus was pretty much empty. Just before getting out I said to them in Korean something like, "yeah, foreigner, Korean cannot do, too difficult" (easy expressions to learn really) Nothing special, but felt good to see their expressions. Actually they just smiled and had a laugh. They had said nothing offensive, but still, I had my little moment. Yeah I'm petty like that sometimes.

Watch what you say in public.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one for you~
I was on a date once with this woman who answered her phone in front of me. The person on the other end was her husband. She was talking all lovey-dovey in Korean as if I couldn't understand a word she was saying.
As soon as she finished her conversation, I excused myself by saying I was going to the bathroom. She didn't think nothing of it and continued eating. I carefully snuck out the door- screw that! The date was over!
Anyway- she called me about fifteen minutes later asking where I was and I told her in Korean I was home getting ready for bed. She tried to get all loud about it, but I hung up and blocked her calls.

Yeah- knowing Korean is VERY handy when meeting girls and sorting them out Wink .
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Observe



Joined: 28 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Observe wrote:

Do you blame them? What would you think of a foreigner in USA/UK/Aus/Can. that had been there for three years plus, was surrounded by English ( as we are by Korean) -- but could barely say more than the most simplistic phrases like 'hello', 'thanks' and 'bye' .

We'd think they were complete idiots, and disrespectful of our culture too. We'd be shocked at their lack of interest in the language.



This argument is crap. What level makes us "good learners of Korean"?

I can use 겠구나! Is that enough? I know when to use 나 and 요 in the same sentence! I just figured out 니까 to indicate "because"!!! Is that enough? I don't know how to translate 답답하다!!? DO I FAIL? What's the difference between 께 and ㄹ거야? I don't get that!!!! AM I GOOD ENOUGH? What's the difference between 지루하다 and 심심하다? AM I AN IMMORAL FOREIGNER!!?!!

You're establishing completely arbitrary rules for a language level ability to be "good enough" in order for Koreans to treat us like human beings.

If Koreans were coming into the US in large numbers, to largely stay no more than 2 years, with the express purpose of teaching a language that the US was in a frenzy to learn, indicating that they spent much of their time speaking Korean during their daily lives, AND 90% of Americans regarded their attempts to use English as some kind of 귀여운 curio rather than a real desire to communicate and involve themselves in the society-- then no, I wouldn't think them rude or idiots.
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Observe



Joined: 28 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are those levels? What does elementary mean?
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santafly



Joined: 20 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit of a dilemma for me really -

I spent last year in Korea. I can read and write in Hanguel. I have probably a hundred word vocabulary, maybe more, but mostly food items. I can count, pay for stuff, order food.

I didn't think I would ever go back to Korea so I really didn't bother trying to learn Korean, it's not exactly a useful language. If I'm going to be taking classes or spending time studying shouldn't I do something worthwhile. The 3 most widely used languages are, in order, Chinese, Spanish, and English. I already speak Spanish. If I were working in China I would be psyched to learn Chinese (although I would probably settle for being illiterate). While I was in Korea I worked 44 hours a week in an office with 15 other people that all spoke English fluently. When I wasn't at work I was either with my girlfriend (again, fluent in English) or enjoying some private time.

But now I'm returning to Korea for another year and my relationship with my girlfriend is more serious. I want to learn some Korean - it's not a top priority but I would feel ridiculous not trying - especially because I love languages (especially Brazilian Portuguese). Hmmmm.......
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