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DustinEwan



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: New American Going to Korea in January Reply with quote

Hello everybody, this is my first post here at Dave's Cafe!

I'm a 23 year old Software Engineer from the United States and have a ticket booked to Korea for the second week of January. I kinda just dove into this thing head first and I think I have quite a few things figured out, but I'm certain I also have quite a lot to learn yet.

From what I understand, I have 90 days once I land in Korea to find a job and make a trip to China/Japan for my E-2 VISA. Does this still apply since it's my first time or is this route only applicable for people who have already taught here?

Is there any general advice I can get from an American aspect? I know that a lot of the VISA information has been changing recently and I've had some trouble sorting current and valid information from outdated information.

Thank you very much!

(btw, I'll be in Seoul on Friday, January 15th and hopefully be here for a year. I hope to meet some experienced people for a few drinks or a meal if possible!)
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Dave's! Don't read too many of the posts here--they almost put me off coming when I came to Korea in 2007. Instead, check out the wiki here

http://wiki.galbijim.com/ESL_in_Korea

Enjoy your time in Korea. I wish I was back there now.
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DustinEwan



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for the welcome and that link, I'll definitely be reading through that!

Right now my main concern is if I'll have to go back to the US after I find a job in Seoul to get my E2 VISA. Is it possible to go to Japan or China as a first time teacher to get my E2?

I know that one of the requirements of the VISA is to have a contract signed with an employer, but I really want to go to Korea first so that I can inspect the schools/living conditions that I'm signing up for.


Edit: I came across the VISA Runs page. Am I correct in assuming that this information on VISA Runs is valid (even for a first time teacher?)?


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DustinEwan



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, reading this wiki also presents another question.

The final paragraph on the Employment Process page warns about having Proof of Onward Travel if planning on entering Korea on a Travel VISA.

Does anybody have any experience with this? Thanks again!
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Alaskaman



Joined: 22 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang-Gu, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time teachers need to visit a Korean Embessy in his or her own country for an interview prior to getting a e-2 teaching visa
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ytuque



Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaskaman wrote:
First time teachers need to visit a Korean Embessy in his or her own country for an interview prior to getting a e-2 teaching visa


Not exactly.... You can do a visa run to a 3rd country like I did if you have your educational credentials verified by the KCUE.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the site!

But wait, you already booked a ticket?! Why why why?

I was under the same impression as Alaskaman that you had to have an interview at a consulate if it were your first time in Korea. There's a consul checklist document listed on various Korean sites that appears to be from said interview. If not, okay, but still. Even if you're hired without one, you'll probably be out your flight ticket to Korea.

I can't imagine it would be that easy to show up in a country you've never been to, not knowing a single thing about...anything, and hoping to find a job in an industry in which you don't know anything as well.

You've got your work cut out for you. And to anyone else considering doing this, DON'T! (Though I'm sure some will disagree, this is not something that's done very often nowadays and for good reason.)
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time e-2 aplicants must apply from their home country - mainly because they likely have to attend a 5 minute screening interview at the korean consulate there.

A pretty comprehensive guide to everything youre asking about:

http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/requirements
http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/visa-procedures
http://www.goeastrecruiting.com/criminal-background-checks
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The onward travel requirement is technically true, but I was not asked at immigration nor were friends of mine. Buy a refundable ticket if you're worried, that's what I did.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
The onward travel requirement is technically true, but I was not asked at immigration nor were friends of mine. Buy a refundable ticket if you're worried, that's what I did.


That's for the tourist visa. If you're on an E-2, you don't need it.
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SSA



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: ticket Reply with quote

I finished my contract in aug 09. I bought a rtn ticket from Seoul-London (and back to seoul). Before I bought the ticket I called 1345 (immigration) 8 times to confirm that i could enter Korea on a one-way ticket with a tourist visa. Each time I spoke to a different person and got the same answer - yes you can enter Korea without an onward ticket. Im from the UK and get a 90days tourist visa.

I went to Heathrow to check in and the guy asked me where was my onward ticket. I explained I didnt have one but I had confirmed this before leaving Korea. So - Korea doesnt require an onward ticket BUT the airlines you are flying with have a computer system that says you do need one and as they are semi responsible for allowing you to travel they insist on this. I was told to book a onward ticket and return to check in only after I had done so. I was very angry about this and I know it says on several websites online that you dont need one and immigration also confirmed this. When i arrived in Korea I asked the immigration officer if he would like to see my onward ticket he said no, I didnt need one. I emailed and complained to Emirates and they told me what i said above about airlines can be fined if you dont have onward tickets.

Now, an onward ticket can be to anywhere so you could buy a one-way ferry ticket to Japan and then if you didnt use it you have only lost small amount of money.

So, I think you need to check with the airline you have booked with before you arrive at the airport to check in.
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AnthonyCWSox



Joined: 07 Aug 2009
Location: no idea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: bad idea Reply with quote

stay home Shocked
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rcd1649



Joined: 21 Jun 2009
Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Ticket Reply with quote

Well congrats on having large cajones my friend but I don't think you need to buy your own ticket, pretty much every job will pay for you to fly out. And while it may be possible to get your visa while in Korea it seems a heck of alot easier to get it in your home country. Admittedly I'm not an expert but I've just been doing alot of research myself. And don't worry to much about the naysayers who don't want a "newbie." I've traveled over much of the world and been a "newbie" the first time I went anywhere, I still had a great time!
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for needing an outbound ticket to make airlines happy, get a Kobee ticket. Just reserve the ticket, make a printout and show it to them. You don't need to purchase it, just make the reservation.
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ytuque



Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
First time e-2 aplicants must apply from their home country - mainly because they likely have to attend a 5 minute screening interview at the korean consulate there.


I got my 1st Korean E visa in Fukuoka as well as a number of coworkers past & present. I have put the relevant parts in bold print.

�Korean Council for University Education (KCUE), which is a non-profit and non-governmental organization, was established under the Korean Council for University Education Act (ACT No. 3727) in 1982 for promoting cooperation among member universities in Korea. Its members are 201 four-year Korean colleges and universities across the nation.
�One of the major functions of KCUE is to verify academic degrees of foreigners who wish to serve as English teachers in Korea. Clients for the academic verification service include universities, private enterprises and public agencies interested in checking whether academic records of their present or future employees are genuine.
�In particular, the Ministry of Justice of the Republic of Korea officially accepts verification documents from KCUE when E-2 visa applicants try to prove their academic backgrounds.
�Those whose academic degrees have been verified by KCUE are allowed to apply for E-2 visas without being subject to consular interviews, in accordance with decisions by Korean mission. They are also allowed to make their E-2 visa applications to Korean missions in countries other than the one of their nationality.



http://www.teacheslkorea.com/e2_process/verification_of_academic_degrees.html
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