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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Studying while working in Korea Reply with quote

Frequently people come to Dave's and ask for information regarding distance/online MAs. Sometimes individuals ask for info about doing graduate degrees at Korean universities as well. Unfortunately, all too often those type of threads focus less on providing useful information and more on the pros and cons of one specific education provider. I think it might be useful for prospective students if those of us who are currently studying, or have already graduated, to relate our experiences with the schools that we studied at. Here are some of the questions that I imagine potential students may have, feel free to add more.

1) What did you study? Where did you do your degree?
2) How long did it take you? Did you study full-time/part-time?
3) How much is/was tuition on a per semester basis?
4) How many hours per week did you have to study per course?
5) Where you happy with the program? Pros? Cons?
6) Has your degree brought you the benefits that you had hoped it would?
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Studying while working in Korea Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
1) What did you study? Where did you do your degree?


I did an online MA in Applied Linguistics at the University of New England, Australia.

Thiuda wrote:
2) How long did it take you? Did you study full-time/part-time?


I studied for two years part time.

Thiuda wrote:
3) How much is/was tuition on a per semester basis?


Tuition when I was studying was approximately 1.25 million Won per course, so 2.5 million Won per semester part-time.

Thiuda wrote:
4) How many hours per week did you have to study per course?


Some weeks less than others, but on average about seven hours a week. Two courses averaged about two hours of studying a day, most days.

Thiuda wrote:
5) Where you happy with the program? Pros? Cons?


Yes, all in all the program was great, though I would have liked a greater variety of classes, and more classes focused on theoretical linguistics. One thing that was very good was the immediate feedback - hand in paper, one week later receive a pdf version in e-mail with lots of handwritten feedback.

Thiuda wrote:
6) Has your degree brought you the benefits that you had hoped it would?


Yes, I've doubled my salary and enjoy much greater job security. In addition, I'm doing a PhD in Linguistics on a scholarship thanks to my MA.

Anything else?

My advice to anyone considering an MA is to do write a thesis. An MA by research holds a lot more water than a coursework MA.

University of New England - Master of Arts in Applied Linguistics
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that post. Its really useful, I am considering studying and working in korea, so its useful to know that it is workable. Its also good to know what difficulties you can face while doing it.
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lost at sea



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post was nice. I am looking for a distance masters myself. I am looking at:

Uni of Birmingham (http://www.cels.bham.ac.uk/programmes/distance/tefltesl.shtml)

Uni of New England (http://www.une.edu.au/bcss/linguistics/maal.php)

UNE link doesn't seem to load for me.

I know you received yours from New England, and I am curious about it. Is it accredited in the USA, and Europe as well? I have read Birmingham's is accredited in both.

Many threads seem to bring up USQ (http://www.usq.edu.au/) which appears to be a degree mill, but useful to a degree in Korea. Is the added year it takes to complete a UNE or Birmingham masters worth it? How do the costs all add up? I am having some trouble finding the costs for Birmingham, but you said around 2.5 million won for a semester of UNE. I don't think that is too bad if it's accredited in Europe and the USA.

EDIT:

Does anyone know of any other distance masters in areas other than linguistics, tesol or translation?
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Hyeon Een



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any opinions on the University of Auckland (Prof. Rod Ellis!) 1 year distance in MA TESOL? Specifically with regards to following it up with a PhD?

The MA is 1 year unlike most which are 2 years. Which is nice. And Rod Ellis is a pretty well known guy in the field so he most give it a bit fo credibility.

I'd only be interested if I was also doing a PhD though.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) What did you study? Where did you do your degree?
MA in TEFL from Uni of Jaen, Spain. Through a consortium with www.funiber.org It's like a consortium of unis from Latin America, except for Spain.

2) How long did it take you? Did you study full-time/part-time?
Course work was two years. There are 16 courses to take. You take 3 or 4 a semester. It's PT. Thesis took 1.5 years from start to getting my grades, thanks to the fact that my lovely tutor took a long long time to grade. And there was more paperwork to do afterward. Now they've changed the programme and you do your thesis while studying.

3) How much is/was tuition on a per semester basis?
I got a 50% scholarship due to the fact that I worked at one of the unis in the consortium. Total cost was 3K usd plus another 700 for the degree. Now I think costs are around 7 to 10K

4) How many hours per week did you have to study per course?
Depends on what you want to get out of it. We had online questions to answer on a forum about the reading and a 7 to 10 page assignment to do for each course based on the reading. If you read fast, it goes faster. Maybe 1-2 hours per day per course?

5) Where you happy with the program? Pros? Cons?
Um, no not really. Don't get me wrong, I learnt a lot. I did have major problems with my thesis. And the people in the office are a bit incompetant, like I've asked for proof of graduation in ENGLISH two months ago. I still don't have it. All I need are two sentences. But someone has to sign off on it.

MAJOR negative. It's from Spain. Some unis in Korea won't accept degrees from non English speaking countries, even though EVEYTHING, books, assignments, thesis were all in English.

PRO: 16 courses. that means you cover a LOT of material. Learn many new things.

6) Has your degree brought you the benefits that you had hoped it would?
Yep. But I'll still be doing an MA from USQ starting sometime this year.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lost at sea wrote:
Uni of New England (http://www.une.edu.au/bcss/linguistics/maal.php)

UNE link doesn't seem to load for me.

Does anyone know of any other distance masters in areas other than linguistics, tesol or translation?


Hasn't worked for me either. I tried yesterday as well.

As for other MA, look here Getting an MA while overseas
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you afraid that an MA from USQ will be frowned upon in Korea or else where? I read even some places in Korea refuse MAs from USQ. I like that it's only a 1 year program, but afraid about it being no good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lost at sea wrote:
Are you afraid that an MA from USQ will be frowned upon in Korea or else where? I read even some places in Korea refuse MAs from USQ. I like that it's only a 1 year program, but afraid about it being no good.


Yes, I'm afraid that it won't be accepted. I'm leaning towards Deakin. Also a one year programme and they have lots of MAs to choose from, like TEOFL, Education, Secondary, Primary, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deakin is more accredited than USQ? How about in the USA and Europe? I am in the same boat, trying to find a program I can complete quickly but accredited in at least the USA and Asia, and hopefully Europe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's accrediated in OZ, it should be accrediated in the US as well.
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Draz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for what could be an offtopic post, but I would be very interested in hearing from people who studied something other than TESOL/Applied Linguistics while in Korea. After reading at least a dozen threads on them, I have determined that I have no interest in those degrees. I do want to study something, and I'd love to hear about other options. I was really hoping this thread would be it. Embarassed
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Any opinions on the University of Auckland (Prof. Rod Ellis!) 1 year distance in MA TESOL? Specifically with regards to following it up with a PhD?


I don't know anything about the MA TESOL on offer through the U of Auckland, but if you're looking towards doing a PhD in the future you should look for a program that offers a module in research methodology and allows you to write a dissertation. If you can secure a prominent specialist in the field, like Rod Ellis, as a diss supervisor, you'll increase your chances of admission into a PhD program even further.

Hyeon Een wrote:
The MA is 1 year unlike most which are 2 years. Which is nice. And Rod Ellis is a pretty well known guy in the field so he most give it a bit fo credibility.

I'd only be interested if I was also doing a PhD though.


MAs in the British system of university education take only two semesters to complete, rather than in the American system where many are still four semesters (though this is changing). When you're applying for a PhD program what is important isn't your length of candidature, but your GPA and evidence of independent research, which is why doing a dissertation is important.

Here are some more recent threads that discussed education while working in Korea:

MA (with Thesis) v MA (no thesis)
did your MA in linguistics require a practicum or thesis?
What is the highest rated MA A.L/TESOL Online degrees??
Getting a Masters in English online?
Online M.A. followed by entrance to a PhD?
Which first? An MA or a PGCE?
Choosing the right MA TESOL/Applied Linguistics Program
Which MA/MEd should I get?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Studying while working in Korea Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
Frequently people come to Dave's and ask for information regarding distance/online MAs. Sometimes individuals ask for info about doing graduate degrees at Korean universities as well. Unfortunately, all too often those type of threads focus less on providing useful information and more on the pros and cons of one specific education provider. I think it might be useful for prospective students if those of us who are currently studying, or have already graduated, to relate our experiences with the schools that we studied at. Here are some of the questions that I imagine potential students may have, feel free to add more.

1) What did you study? Where did you do your degree?
2) How long did it take you? Did you study full-time/part-time?
3) How much is/was tuition on a per semester basis?
4) How many hours per week did you have to study per course?
5) Where you happy with the program? Pros? Cons?
6) Has your degree brought you the benefits that you had hoped it would?


Having a university job there with five-months of paid vacation facilitated completion of my MATEFL from the University of Reading. The degree itself not only made me a better teacher but confirmed a lot of practices I had already been using. Ultimately, having the degree got me my current dream job!

Sadebugo
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lost at sea



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been digging around more, and...

(concerning applied linguistics)

For a 2 year MA it appears university of Birmingham is the best (in my opinion).

I am curious about a 1 year MA program. Are there any highly recommended one year programs out there? If not I will shoot for Birmingham's 2 year program. [/u]
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