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[On the other hand]

Pretty much out of the blue, too.

[Gopher]

Ron Paul is an obscure Republican Texas Congressman who sits on unimportant committees in the House and, because he parrots Chalmers Johnson (a far leftist) so well, gets a lot of play in the media and on the internet.

[mises]

Gopher, seriously, you wish. He has a very large following and was, contrary to the mainstream and respectable pundits, economists and others, completely totally perfectly correct about the economic situation. And he continues to be. You ignore him and attempt to marginalize him at your own peril.

You don't like him because you like the US military adventures around the world, or at least you don't like criticism of them. He sees no reason for them. An increasingly large number of Americans see no reason for them either (see David Brooks in the NYT this week).

Ben Stein is one of those individuals who shows up on shows and in papers despite his complete inability to discern his left from right foot. Further, the anti-Semite slur is obnoxious, but really par.

[Koveras]

That's public discourse in this day and age. Heidu Klum was antisemitic for hosting a tv show. Mel Gibson was antisemitic for making a movie about Christ. Mention AIPAC and your an antisemite. Honest Jewish scholars like Finkelstein and Hilberg are actually latent antisemites. Now Ron Paul is called antisemitic for opposing the neocon agenda. But it's funny because in this case the gears are really showing.

[Gopher]

Mises, I find his critique wholly unreasonable, based primarily on one-sided muckraking, which is in turn based on the Soviet propaganda position in the Cold War, which stressed allaged American imperialism and military bases, etc. (see especially Chalmers Johnson).

It is inaccurate to create the binary that you have or to assert that I like alleged American military adventurism in world affairs.

By the way, how much traction did he get in his run for the presidency outside the media and the internet? He got Igotthisguitar and Mithridates's and several other Canadians' vote, I will grant that...

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Koveras, are you kidding re: Mel Gibson? The man is wholly antisemitic. There is no question about it.

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[mises]

Despite it all, he did very well. Don't you think? The Republicans had half a dozen smiling donkeys and an outsider who managed to snake his way in. He was mocked, mimicked, called names and all else.

His opinion is that America should stay home. This has nothing to do with Soviet this and that or your boy Chalmers. He's right. The United States cannot afford endless wars. Christ, have you seen what China is building? Look at the metro systems being built all over that country. That is how public money should be spent. Trillions pissed away in the US to NO BENEFIT of average people.

[Koveras]

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[mises]

[Ya-ta Boy]

RP may or may not be an anti-Semite, but if he is, it is not because of his position on stationing troops in the Middle East. That's an absurd claim. Stein was off base and out of line.

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[mises]

Just occurred to me.. Peter Schiff, a Jewish bloke, was RP's economic adviser. Quite a few of the Austrian economists are Jewish (including Mises and Rothbard).

The claim is stupid.

[Gopher]

In response to G. Kennan's long telegram to the Truman administration re: Soviet intentions postwar, the Soviet ambassador to the United States, N. Novikov, under Molotov's guidance, wrote the Soviet counterpart:

The Americans, dominated by expansionist monopoly capital, would continue to seek world imperialism through global military bases. But because capitalists can never get along for long, the Americans and the British would soon be at war with each other in the Near East. There the capitalists would soon collapse, paving the way for Soviet victory.

American intellectuals first sided with Kennan's take on the cold war. But they shifted and sided with Novikov after the late-1960s. And there they remain. Thus their studies emphasize American imperialism, capitalism, and military bases. William Blum, Noam Chomsky, Chalmers Johnson, and all their followers, including, in Johnson's case, Ron Paul.

They assumed that they best way to become independent of the former was to go 180 and embrace the latter. But this does not represent "thinking" by any sense of the word. Es lo que hay.

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On the Other Hand, their chronic misunderstanding and misuse of the word "blowback" is one giveaway that they simply follow Chalmers Johnson. Only he misuses it that way.

[mises]