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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
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At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
I'd agree with most of this. I'm awful with sarcasm, for one. Americans aren't too crazy about perpetual negativity.
Some more fun euphemisms you might find deeply annoying:
"Goodness Gracious!"
"My Lord" or "My God!" or "Good Lord!"
"Holy crap!"
"Great Googley-Moogley!" (actually, I think I'm the only one who says that.... I am a ferocious beast, after all )
"Now we're cooking with gas!"
And on and on... It's good fun. |
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shifter2009

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
oh my goodness? Have you been hanging out with an American church group? |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
oh my goodness? Have you been hanging out with an American church group? |
nah. two friends of mine who are in their late 20s/early thirties have been heard saying this. neither of them are a member of a church group to my knowledge. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| .38 Special wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
I'd agree with most of this. I'm awful with sarcasm, for one. Americans aren't too crazy about perpetual negativity.
Some more fun euphemisms you might find deeply annoying:
"Goodness Gracious!"
"My Lord" or "My God!" or "Good Lord!"
"Holy crap!"
"Great Googley-Moogley!" (actually, I think I'm the only one who says that.... I am a ferocious beast, after all )
"Now we're cooking with gas!"
And on and on... It's good fun. |
I use the f word in basically every non work environment sentence I've ever uttered. Not in an aggressive way..just feels normal. I tend to say ' [Mod Edit] ' when I am annoyed or surprised. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Is it rare for a Briton to be sarcastic?
I think they refer to sarcasm as "being ironic"
Off-topic;
Again, I love women with accents- very sexy in my book  |
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SeoulMan99

Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Except for two gormless girls from upstate New York(they believed literally everything I said), who I knew in University, my first american friends were made in Korea.
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
Considering that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit (and is also annoying with prolonged exposure) I do not find this particularly insulting. Perpetual cynicism is not necessarily a healthy trait either. North Americans (Mexico excluded) I have found are more optimistic and light hearted than the average Brit I've met. This may lead to the perception of naivete, though I don't think it really equates to my experience as an American who is well traveled. Maybe if your friends are from small town America they speak slowly and are truly naive, but growing up and in college I never heard anyone speak the way you are portraying us. Coming from Chicago I will say most people did everything fast.
Your friends may be real dimwits, and the naive American girls abroad is typical. You said yourself that you knew no Americans until you moved to Korea, so it is obvious your exposure is small and thus annecdotal. I've also found that Kiwis and and Australians have a lot in common with Americans, and Iwould not classify them as cynical either.
I'm a realist, which tends to make me cynical at times..this is probably why I get along so well with Brits, but I find American optimism refreshing.
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again. |
I don't know. I'm on break from attending law school in the Midwest. I and my fellow East Coasters tend to be somewhat cynical and acerbic there. New Englanders and Acela/Megalopolis Americans sound more like your description of Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis. |
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SeoulMan99

Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again. |
I don't know. I'm on break from attending law school in the Midwest. I and my fellow East Coasters tend to be somewhat cynical and acerbic there. New Englanders and Acela/Megalopolis Americans sound more like your description of Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis. |
Spot on. Growing up I spent time between IL and NY and I'd say you're right that the East Coast and large cities in the Midwest are more cynical than most of America, and similar to other English speaking countries. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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You guys also have to remember that the Americans you meet abroad are almost exclusively in 1 of 2 groups. The middle and upper class, and the military.
They do not represent even a slight sample of the American populace. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Im a Brit and it really grinds my gears when people here (in England) go on about Americans having no sense of humour, when they have no discernable sense of humour themselves. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| .38 Special wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
At first I thought they were a very fake, then a little fake and then finally settled on just really nice. The americans (and canadians) i've met aren't as cynical, sarcastic or as sharp as brits, irish, aussies or kiwis. They are also not as funny however but that is to be expected. |
This is a joke, right? |
Nope. Americans I've met are nice. They are rarely sarcastic and are not very cynical. Especially not sarcastic. Cannot emphasize that enough. It seems the typical american's concept of sarcasm is saying 'really ?' every now and again.
Also,,, very slow speakers. And they have a tendency to say deeply annoying things like 'oh, my goodness'. Young males shouldn't say that.
Just the ones I've met though. I'm sure u are a quick talking, sarcastic exception. |
I'd agree with most of this. I'm awful with sarcasm, for one. Americans aren't too crazy about perpetual negativity.
Some more fun euphemisms you might find deeply annoying:
"Goodness Gracious!"
"My Lord" or "My God!" or "Good Lord!"
"Holy crap!"
"Great Googley-Moogley!" (actually, I think I'm the only one who says that.... I am a ferocious beast, after all )
"Now we're cooking with gas!"
And on and on... It's good fun. |
I use the f word in basically every non work environment sentence I've ever uttered. Not in an aggressive way..just feels normal. I tend to say ' [Mod Edit]' when I am annoyed or surprised. |
Man, you're SO credible now! |
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