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Is your national pension and medical insurance deducted?
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Is national pension and medical being deducted from your paycheque each month?
Just pension.
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Just medical.
10%
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Both.
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Neither of these are deducted from my paycheque.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Is your national pension and medical insurance deducted? Reply with quote

While I suspect I know the answer to the above question, please do answer, as some people at my brand new school are uncertain about the rules and regulations governing foreign workers. Please only answer if you are on an E2 Visa.
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DosEquisXX



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just pension.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both.. I work at a uni - things get deducted.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they are just deducting pension, it's likely going into to your employers pocket instead of your pension account. pension and health are two of the few government offices that are linked. call pension, give them you ARC#, ask for your pension balance and ask what salary your employer enrolled you under (chances are they are under-reporting your salary - if you're even enrolled).
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Both.. I work at a uni - things get deducted.

My last uni deducted nothing (a national uni, btw). I had to sue them to get my money.

Current uni deducts everything.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any legal alternative to the national health plan? Literature I've read says that all foreigners are required to be registered with the national health plan. My employer suggested that there is private "travel" insurance which costs 150,000 total for the whole year. [/b]
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote:
Is there any legal alternative to the national health plan? Literature I've read says that all foreigners are required to be registered with the national health plan. My employer suggested that there is private "travel" insurance which costs 150,000 total for the whole year. [/b]


This travel insurance costs less than the national health care plan...but it also likely covers less as well. And the reason the boss is suggesting this is because the national plan and pension are linked. If he pays into the national health plan he has to pay pension as well. And that's 4.5% of your salary every month...which more than covers your expenses for the national plan.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can carry supplemental insurance over and above the national plan, but the national plan is always required.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only pay the Health Insurance. Pension not compulsory for me since I'm South African.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all the responses! This is very helpful.

So can anyone confirm or deny that pension is compulsory for Canadians? And how can I check my balance online to see if it has been paid?

Thanks.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.npc.or.kr/jsppage/english/main.jsp

Check this website. There's a link that says "Social Security Agreement" and Canada is on that list. So if you're Canadian you'd have to pay into the National Pension Fund. You can later claim whatever contributions that you and your employer made throughout the year. So you get your money back (and then some)

The reason why I don't have to pay is because SA and Korea have no such agreement and you'll see we're not on that list.

Of course since I'm not Canadian I speak under correction, but this is the inofrmation that I have.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. that's very helpful. Are there any fellow Canadians out there who are not paying pension? If so, why?
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socratesocks



Joined: 18 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here for 4 months and my school takes out neither pension or insurance. Frankly, I'd rather not have insurance, the doctors here are cheap enough without it and I lived in the US without insurance for the past 4 years which is far larger risk. However, I'd really like to get my pension set up. I haven't really confronted my hogwon because I don't like to start something without a little ammo. I just looked at my contract which doesn't mention pension (spare me the, "How could you sign a contract without pension?!?!!?! We all make mistakes). Am I still entitled to pension? If I am, where can I find legal citations for this claim? Can I get pension without paying for insurance? Thanks.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the pension and national medical are linked. You can't have one without the other. It really is a good plan (the medical), since it covers major emergencies, that could cause you serious financial hardship.

Check here for more info:

http://www.nps.or.kr/
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

socratesocks wrote:
I've been here for 4 months and my school takes out neither pension or insurance. Frankly, I'd rather not have insurance, the doctors here are cheap enough without it and I lived in the US without insurance for the past 4 years which is far larger risk. However, I'd really like to get my pension set up. I haven't really confronted my hogwon because I don't like to start something without a little ammo. I just looked at my contract which doesn't mention pension (spare me the, "How could you sign a contract without pension?!?!!?! We all make mistakes). Am I still entitled to pension? If I am, where can I find legal citations for this claim? Can I get pension without paying for insurance? Thanks.


Even if you signed a contract that doesn't include pension, it doesn't matter. Pension is mandatory for employees (up to a certain age 60 or something like that. ) So yes you are still entitled to pension.

Legal citations can be found in the Retirement Benefits Act. But it doesn't really matter. If you go down to the pension office and tell them they will take care of that. You will have to back-pay for all the months you missed, but then they'll go after your employer for his share (which is likely to cause trouble between your employer and you.)

No, you can't get pension without insurance. The two are linked...which is one reason many hakwon directors will try to offer PRIVATE insurance plans rather than the national insurance one.
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