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Why can't they just drop their pants to know?
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Why can't they just drop their pants to know? Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_on_sp_ol/oly_ioc_gender_cases
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because gender is more complicated than that and there are some grey areas.
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can it be that difficult to know? You either have one or you don't.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

an X chromosome? Actually, you can have one, or none, or two, or even three. And sometimes the expression of X-chromosome characteristics is blocked by mutation or other factors, so the body goes to its default state - mostly female. This means that you can have an inch-long clitoris with a head, or a fully-formed *beep* and also a vagina below it. Or you can have a *beep* and two breasts. Or, well, the possibilities are endless really.

YOUR MIND IS BLOWN.
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Olivencia



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just figured you either have a dinggy or you don't.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivencia wrote:
Just figured you either have a dinggy or you don't.


That's pretty much it. There haven't been that many sideshow freaks in the Olympics before, so it's an unexpected phenomenon
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imakemyselflaugh



Joined: 13 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
an X chromosome? Actually, you can have one, or none, or two, or even three. And sometimes the expression of X-chromosome characteristics is blocked by mutation or other factors, so the body goes to its default state - mostly female. This means that you can have an inch-long clitoris with a head, or a fully-formed *beep* and also a vagina below it. Or you can have a *beep* and two breasts. Or, well, the possibilities are endless really.

YOUR MIND IS BLOWN.


There are definitely lots of options, which make this issue complicated... but I'm pretty sure you have to have at least one X chromosome. The X has a lot of stuff on it that the Y doesn't... hence all the X-linked diseases (like why mostly men are colourblind). But most people with trisomy of XXY, or XYY wouldn't even know it.

A lot of stuff is hormonal as well. A lot of the problem with this issue is determining which combination of factors should determine whether you're a man or woman for sports purposes. Hormones, appearance, DNA...
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imakemyselflaugh wrote:
but I'm pretty sure you have to have at least one X chromosome.

YY is possible. However, too much genetic material is needed from the X to enable a YY to live much past fertilization.
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Gibberish



Joined: 29 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The case of Caster Semenya is a great argument against "Why can't their be inter-gender sports?" questions posed by wanna-be feminists. She proves the point.
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sex, not gender.

We already know there aren't just two sexes- that's what's with the fancy words like 'hermaphrodite' etc.

Drop the false divisions and treat athletes as athletes.
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes just have one gold, silver and bronze medal for each event. There should be no separate races and competetions for men and women and others.
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Jeonmunka



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty bad that so many women athletes look like men. Something seriously wrong with that.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermaphrodite? In my book it's just men, women, and freaks.

Those in the freak category are born to be dancers in bawdy shows or to be bearded women in carnivals.
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mateomiguel



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibberish wrote:
The case of Caster Semenya is a great argument against "Why can't their be inter-gender sports?" questions posed by wanna-be feminists. She proves the point.


Cuz women would lose all the time then! HAHA!
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