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Foxkorea
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: Wanted murderers can be employed in Korea--if they're Korean |
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http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100126_Alleged_killer_nabbed_in_S__Korea_in_court_today.html
Follow the link. It's in the Philadelphia Inquirer. Then you'll read how a bail-jumping man with an outstanding arrest warrant can find legal employment as an English teacher in Korea. Of course, if you're white and have even a whiff of legal trouble, stay out of the Big K. You're a danger!
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sketcha
Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: |
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wow ... not bashing against Korea (as I'm sure this could happen in other places) or its police force (they did catch him again), but ...
releasing a murder suspect just because they didnt have a formal extradition agreement ???
the sad part is he is now a father of three ... that's 4 more (including the wife) victims
truly sad |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: |
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The guy was American. His parents were born in Korea. He was not.
So, OP, you should change your Thread title "if your Korean" to "if you are American" |
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Foxkorea
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
The guy was American. His parents were born in Korea. He was not.
So, OP, you should change your Thread title "if your Korean" to "if you are American" |
You're right, of course. What I meant to say was 'ethnic Korean', to point out the hypocrisy of the criminal background check applying only to ethnically non-Korean persons. The point is, an ethnic Korean (of any nationality) can be a wanted fugitive and still get a teaching job in Korea, while any non-Korean would probably rejected for anything less than a spotless CBC. |
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Forward Observer
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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At least this case led the two countries to a mutual extradition treaty. Anyway, I bet he's wishing he faced his crimes 14 years ago right now. He'd probably already be out and moving on with his life by now.
There was a similar case a few years back. A Korean citizen working for Hyundai was living or visiting the U.S. on a business trip, went out drinking with his colleagues, decided to drive drunk, killed someone, and instead of facing court, decided to run. He got on a plane and went back to Korea. Don't remember the details, but I think he was caught and returned to face the crime. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| sketcha wrote: |
wow ... not bashing against Korea (as I'm sure this could happen in other places) or its police force (they did catch him again), but ...
releasing a murder suspect just because they didnt have a formal extradition agreement ??? |
Yes, the Korean authorities released him because they had no choice. There was no extradition treaty at the time. There is now and he was arrested again and extradited.
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the sad part is he is now a father of three ... that's 4 more (including the wife) victims
truly sad |
Don't forget how he also shafted his father to the tune of a million dollars.
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The guy was American. His parents were born in Korea. He was not.
So, OP, you should change your Thread title "if your Korean" to "if you are American" |
South Korea's nationality laws are different than those of the United States. Nam very well may have been a dual national at the time he fled to Korea.
Guess the gangs need a better way of determining a "street name." That jerk was anything but "solid." |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| sketcha wrote: |
wow ... not bashing against Korea (as I'm sure this could happen in other places) or its police force (they did catch him again), but ...
releasing a murder suspect just because they didnt have a formal extradition agreement ???
the sad part is he is now a father of three ... that's 4 more (including the wife) victims
truly sad |
That will happen anywhere else.
As a country ruled by laws, if you have no legal basis for holding the person you cannot hold the person, nor can you "give them a record" for a crime they have not been convicted of.
This sucks, but the alternative is a scraping of the basic legal protections granted to individuals.
Glad to hear the scumbag is being sent back and hopefully will have a good 25-Life to think about what he did. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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They can also get passports in the US. That was in the country that could actually do something about him.
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That will happen anywhere else.
As a country ruled by laws, if you have no legal basis for holding the person you cannot hold the person, nor can you "give them a record" for a crime they have not been convicted of.
This sucks, but the alternative is a scraping of the basic legal protections granted to individuals.
Glad to hear the scumbag is being sent back and hopefully will have a good 25-Life to think about what he did. |
Careful, you'll confuse the hate bandwagon with logic. They just won't know what to do with themselves. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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The original post is rubbish....if the dude had applied for an E-2 visa, submitted a background check, and then the government officials said "well, he's wanted for murder, but hell, he's a gyopo, let him through"...THEN there would be something worth flailing your arms about. He clearly entered the country legally on a different type of visa.
That would be like saying the US lets murderers in to the country if I were to murder someone in France and then just go home on my US passport.
While I have plenty of complaints about Korea, I am amazed at some of the BS people come up with as general statements from isolated incidents.
"AMERICANS LIKE TO CHOP PEOPLE UP AND EAT THEM".....no, that was just Jeffrey Daumer....your post is akin to something as ridiculous as this statement.
Furthermore...it is normal that an ethnic Korean would have more rights than a foreigner with regards to entering Korea...if two Canadians or Americans or Brits, etc....have a child in Korea or anywhere else for that matter, that child will have the same rights to return to the home country of his/her parents without too much hassle at all. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Forward Observer wrote: |
| At least this case led the two countries to a mutual extradition treaty. Anyway, I bet he's wishing he faced his crimes 14 years ago right now. He'd probably already be out and moving on with his life by now. |
Well his co-conspirators got 5 years probation . . .WTF!?!!? They freakin' killed a guy in the commission of a felony and all they got was 5 years probation? 
Also curious that the Crips let a Korean into their gang. Perhaps it was the Krips?  |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| They were 14 years old. |
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Forever
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently, there is also another murderer hiding in Korea - who fled from Canada
After four arrests concerning a murder from May 2007, Toronto Police are looking for a final suspect. A warrant has been sent out for Sang-Woo Ye, 27, of Toronto. Ye is believed to be in South Korea.
Ye also goes by the name Michael. He is described as 6'1", 200 lbs. with brown eyes and straight black hair.
Toronto Police believe that Ye is in South Korea. Investigators are appealing to Ye to surrender to police.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/286639 |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Did he enter Korea on a K-passport or an American passport?
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| The original post is rubbish....if the dude had applied for an E-2 visa, submitted a background check, and then the government officials said "well, he's wanted for murder, but hell, he's a gyopo, let him through"...THEN there would be something worth flailing your arms about. He clearly entered the country legally on a different type of visa. |
Think about what you just wrote.
The issue isn't that he entered Korea legally, the issue is that he was able to teach legally (presumed). |
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Forever
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| air76 wrote: |
| The original post is rubbish....if the dude had applied for an E-2 visa, submitted a background check, and then the government officials said "well, he's wanted for murder, but hell, he's a gyopo, let him through". |
American or Canadian, etc Citizens who are of "Korean heritage" who enter Korea to reside get a F-4 visa.
they can teach in Korea on a F-4 visa and do not need to submit a background check or Medical certificate etc,
they are free to teach without presenting any certificates (medical or criminal).
Jefferey Salko - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ei=7JxjS5nHJ4v6sgPh6f30Dg&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CA0QBSgA&q=Jeffrey+Salko&spell=1
was an American Citizen who obtain a F-4 visa in Korea and was on the run from the FBI - (for kidnapping) and was free to teach at any school in Korea without submitting any documents - which he in fact did - he was employed by a couple of Academies in Korea before he made the mistake of going on a visit to Guam (American territory) where the FBI arrested him.
Whilst he was in Korea, the FBI tried but failed to apprehend him, because he was protected by Korean law. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| wow another thread started by someone who has no idea what they are talking about |
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