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darrenjzy



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Which City for me? Reply with quote

First of all, I would like to thank you all as I have read many of the post on here.

Hello,

I'm a 28 year old male who has recently graduated college. I am from the US and have tutored ESL in Czech Republic and Hungary as a means for extra cash and meeting people while traveling. I have no certification outside of a 3 credit hour ESL course I took my final semester.

Ideally this is what I'm looking for:

1. Southern(A bit warmer) and coastal city
2. 300k+ inhabitants
3. I would like to be able to date and have a social life
4. Good Mass transit
5. limited pollution(able to breathe)

I've done a bit of reading and am thinking of Busan.

I'm asking all this in the confines of South Korea. Thank you in advance.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go to busan
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai? kkkk
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP I think you really limit yourself by saying only in Korea. I think in Korea you have one option, Busan. Of course if you would accept other East Asian nations you would thank yourself down the track. HK, Kaosheung, Okinawa, anywhere in Kyushu, Xiamen, Shenzhen.....the list is endless. But that is just my opinion, maybe you will end up in Pohang and love it.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
Just go to busan


I second that, Busan is the only place within the confines of South Korea that meets all five of those conditions.

But unless there is a specific reason for coming to Korea besides the $$$, I agree with Hightop, and would recommend checking out ESL positions in Taiwan or Southeastern China too. They have better food and nicer people.
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darrenjzy



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, it is about the money Sad I don't have the start up funds to go elsewhere this time around.

Thanks for the advice.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan was made for you
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SanchoPanza



Joined: 10 Jan 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.

I, unfortunately, live near Seoul where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know!
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darrenjzy



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Busan has a pop of about 3.6mil(wiki). I would hope it rates somewhere in the FF...?
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darrenjzy wrote:
Well Busan has a pop of about 3.6mil(wiki). I would hope it rates somewhere in the FF...?


"Cohiba's Rule" doesn't account for Busan at all. It's clearly an exception to the rule. I don't know why people keep posting that stupid "rule" in threads where everyone's talking about Busan.
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mcviking



Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: 'Fantastic' America

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan has a good expat community, the beaches are fun in the summer time, pleanty to do and places to drink. Access to the KTX if you want some Seoul action. Just don't get screwed by your employer.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP do you have experience teaching ESL? Are you not decrepitly old? Private language schools in Beijing and Southern China start at 12000 RMB (2 mil) per month including housing, and that's just for beginners. These are the big adult chain 'hagwons': Wall Street English, EF English First, WEB English international just to name a few.

If you prefer kids,I have a friend teaching at an int'l school in SH making 2.5 or thereabouts, he has 2 years and a TEFL cert. Not killer money but something to consider, especially when you take cost of living into account and the fact that you'll be learning a useful language (if you so desire).

Think it about it! Exclamation Idea

Busan is not a bad place by any means but there's really no reason to limit yourself to the Hermit Kingdom of Miraculous Calm.
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darrenjzy



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The info you asked for is in my initial post.

I just assumed that Korea was the only place that would hire me with a paid flight and start-up money or an apartment.

My goal would be to teach in Korea for a year to save a bit of coin and then take a CELTA course somewhere in Europe or Latin American. Then again, a lot can change in a year:)

The schools you mentioned all require a teaching certification. EF didn't mention one and I applied.

Thanks, I'll do some more research on China.
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Oliver



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look into Yeosu
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mcviking



Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: 'Fantastic' America

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Old gil I was looking to try to go to China after this contract. Where do you think I should look since you seem t know about the Chinese market more than I do. What are the requirements and how much of a pain in the ass is it to get a visa?
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