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If the CT is often missing from co-teaching and the students run amok, I would... |
give up all semblance of a normal class and just play games with the students. |
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kick the disrespectful kids out of the classroom. |
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threaten to call their mommies. |
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tell them to leave me alone while I vent my negativity on Dave's ESL Cafe. |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: CT's frequent/mysterious teacher "meetings" |
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My co-teacher has been more and more absent from helping me co-teach. I'm sure this is nothing new to public schools or otherwise in Korea. The kids are mostly unruly.
So I'm wondering what the rest of Dave's Cafe would do if in this situation. So far I've already brought this to my teacher's attention, but I'm getting the feeling that she doesn't care, since she continually removes herself from the class. For the classes she does attend while the students act this way, she politely smiles and waits for them to settle down. I think this approach is utter crap, since it wastes over half the class and nothing gets done. If this is how she wants to handle her class, I'm fine with that, but for the classes where I'm teaching alone, I propose to try something different instead of staring at them like an asshat. Because you know, I try not to act like an asshat if I can help it.
These are the options I have thought of so far
-Kick the disrespectful kids out of the classroom?
-Threaten them with calls to their mommies?
-Forget about the normal lesson and play games?
-Tell them to leave me alone while I vent on Dave's ESL cafe?
Interested in hearing input. Thanks |
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bliss
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Gyeonggi
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Each time she is missing you should go and find her.
While you are looking for her, explain to other school staff why you are not teaching. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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You should be breaking the class in half and sharing the load so you should be teaching between fifteen to twenty students per class. The 40- 45 students per class and co-teaching is currently be phased out. You're school is just behind in the process. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
You should be breaking the class in half and sharing the load so you should be teaching between fifteen to twenty students per class. The 40- 45 students per class and co-teaching is currently be phased out. You're school is just behind in the process. |
coteaching is being phased out? why are my new coteachers so gung ho about it then? |
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Michelle

Joined: 18 May 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: Coteaching |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
You should be breaking the class in half and sharing the load so you should be teaching between fifteen to twenty students per class. The 40- 45 students per class and co-teaching is currently be phased out. You're school is just behind in the process. |
Hi,
Yeah this is interesting if it is true. Everyone would have to renegotiate a different contract this year straight away, just for starters. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Coteaching |
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Michelle wrote: |
Fishead soup wrote: |
You should be breaking the class in half and sharing the load so you should be teaching between fifteen to twenty students per class. The 40- 45 students per class and co-teaching is currently be phased out. You're school is just behind in the process. |
Hi,
Yeah this is interesting if it is true. Everyone would have to renegotiate a different contract this year straight away, just for starters. |
If you school has a functioning English multi-media room then they should be slowly phasing out co-teaching. If your still walking from classroom to classroom then you will still be co-teaching. The New Gepik contracts already have allowances for breaking the large groups in two. |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
You should be breaking the class in half and sharing the load so you should be teaching between fifteen to twenty students per class. The 40- 45 students per class and co-teaching is currently be phased out. You're school is just behind in the process. |
I would, but this time happened to be a special class with only 15-20 students. Anyway, I'm over it. Next time this happens, they're just getting kicked out of class. |
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JJJ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Happens to me all the time and I'm also at a very low school.
Tried kicking the bad ones out, got the punishment teacher to come to class and yell at them to be quiet, tried to play games, waited for them to quiet down, tried teaching a lesson...all to no avail.
Now, I just say, "Ok, someone put the computer on and watch a TV/movie on Gom" (I think that's how it's spelt). It makes them happy and makes them like me better at school...so that's great with me. |
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gay in korea
Joined: 13 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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it may also not be a matter of what you can possibly do, but more a matter of what you are allowed to do.
I was at a very low level/performing school with huge discipline problems (13 students expelled in one term). I tried to discipline them, but was told I wasn't allowed to. Wasn't allowed to make them miss lunch. Wasn't allowed to make them run laps. Wasn;t allowed to make them sit on their knees the whole class with their arms in the air. I also tried a few other 'stress positions', but my argument that "if the American army does it, why can't I?" didn't seem to win me any points.
People are talking about smaller classes sizes and multi-media rooms, and many cases low schools simply wont have those as options.
You could always get one of the plastic sticks and beat one kid mercilessly.... |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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gay in korea wrote: |
it may also not be a matter of what you can possibly do, but more a matter of what you are allowed to do.
I was at a very low level/performing school with huge discipline problems (13 students expelled in one term). I tried to discipline them, but was told I wasn't allowed to. Wasn't allowed to make them miss lunch. Wasn't allowed to make them run laps. Wasn;t allowed to make them sit on their knees the whole class with their arms in the air. I also tried a few other 'stress positions', but my argument that "if the American army does it, why can't I?" didn't seem to win me any points.
People are talking about smaller classes sizes and multi-media rooms, and many cases low schools simply wont have those as options.
You could always get one of the plastic sticks and beat one kid mercilessly.... |
Many of those things have come to mind. It sucks for the school system that they are throwing their money away on learning English with no results because they can't get the kids to sit down and pay attention. . .
We'll see what I'm allowed to do after I try a few different things. Staring at them while they run amok is getting old. Also my co-teacher has told me that the students feel too comfortable around me because I am never angry or lose my temper... Am I supposed to be screaming at this kids and throwing desks around like the incredible hulk or something? |
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tokkibunni8
Joined: 13 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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In my Gepik contract, if my class sizes are over 30, I have the option of splitting the class into two, where I take the more "advanced" students and my coteacher takes the rest  |
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gillod
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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I had like 10 kids bumrush my desk today and break the doorknob off a door while the co-teacher watched. She was taking pictures of herself on her cell phone. Ugh. When days are like that, I just keep teaching. The good kids pay attention, the bad kids just talk to each other. If they won't listen to me and she's not going to bring the hammer down, there's not much I can do |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Wait a minute...I thought we were supposed to be the assistants! If there are discipline problems then your CT should deal with them while you assist. |
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Pinished
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Easter Clark wrote: |
Wait a minute...I thought we were supposed to be the assistants! If there are discipline problems then your CT should deal with them while you assist. |
I predict you(abatar) will do the "honorable" thing because of your past mistakes and most recent mistake of releasing the photo by jumping off a cliff, apartment building, or strangle yourself so your fellow groupies can blame the Waegookin teachers. Back on point, Gepik sounds smarter than others. |
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PaperTiger

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: Ulaanbataar
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Just remember, it's all your fault and you're always wrong (that's what they will invariably say). Memorize those two things and you have an answer to almost every question regarding work here in Korea. |
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