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E-2 becomes F-2 - is this a mistake?

 
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jinks



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: E-2 becomes F-2 - is this a mistake? Reply with quote

I renewed my E-2 visa at the Daejeon immigration office before I left Korea at the end of January. My new visa has been issued as an F-2; is this a mistake or does an E-2 automatically become F-2 after 5 years of continuous residency in Korea?
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Forward Observer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard something along those lines on the F visa website. Good news for you! No more visa runs eh? Razz
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becomes F-5 not F-2, and that only if you've been a good boy for 5 years.
F-2 is marrying a Korean, CONGRATULATIONS! May I kiss the bride? Smile
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an FYI:

If there is ever any chance to do so, the immigration office may, one day, hold this against you just to save face. Let me provide a few examples of mistakes they've made in the past, and how they saved face over their errors:

1. About 6 years ago, there was a post on here about an American who went through immigration at the airport, but the officer made a mistake and stamped him with a 6-month tourist visa (like Canadians get). It was his first time in Korea, and thinking that he had 6 months, he stayed much of it. When he went to leave after several months (less than 6 months), he was pulled aside and FINED. He said, "But you stamped my passport with a 6-month visa!" The immigration officers told him, "But you're American, and it's your responsibility to know you only get 2 weeks!"

2. A guy from NZ, who used to be very popular on here, overstayed his visa. It just so happened that there was an amnesty period offered to foreigners in Korea who had overstayed their visas, but felt they couldn't leave due to heavy fines. He left during this period, and returned some time later on a new tourist visa (en-route to getting a new E-2). After he arrived, he was later nabbed for his previous overstay, despite being let go on that amnesty period.


My point it is this: You may have gotten a hilarious gift that will be of great benefit, but don't expect it to protect you if trouble comes. I was caught working illegally once (school threatened to oust me from my home if I didn't -- they hadn't completed paperwork yet), and the immigration guys had scanners to scan your ARC with to make sure it wasn't a fake, or if you were a previous offender, whatever. If you are caught teaching on your new F-2, they might get conflicting information, haul you in, and end up busting you like you were an E-2. Worse, you might get deported for not owning-up to their F-2 mistake.
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hsaeoa



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Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your new visa has been issued as a F-2. The stamped visa in your passport or did they change it on your ARC? If it is the one stamped in your passport, I would think they just used the wrong stamp. I'd bet the immigration computer still has you as a E-2.
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tokkibunni8



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That happened to me the first time I renewed. I didnt realize that it was an f-2 sticker they had put into my passport until when I left the country and entered again.

It took about 2 hrs before I was let through immigration. So, u r probably better off going in and getting it fixed!
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Becomes F-5 not F-2, and that only if you've been a good boy for 5 years.
F-2 is marrying a Korean, CONGRATULATIONS! May I kiss the bride? Smile


Not correct. After five years at the same place, one gets an F-2, not an F-5. An F-2 is not only a marriage visa; it is a visa with a guarantor--it's just that, usually, the guarantor is a Korean spouse. A colleague of mine received an F-2 in that way.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Becomes F-5 not F-2, and that only if you've been a good boy for 5 years.
F-2 is marrying a Korean, CONGRATULATIONS! May I kiss the bride? Smile


Not correct. After five years at the same place, one gets an F-2, not an F-5. An F-2 is not only a marriage visa; it is a visa with a guarantor--it's just that, usually, the guarantor is a Korean spouse. A colleague of mine received an F-2 in that way.


I think you are overstating this practice...I think maybe you meant to say...
After five years...and many other considerations...it is possible...but not likely, that one may get an F2...not an F5.
I realize you were pointing out the factual mistake in a previous post, but as the OP is talking about getting an F2 from E2...as if by chance, well...let's wait and see how this turns out.
I have yet to meet anyone that has an F2 without marriage, though many have intentionally tried...but to get one unintentionally...very interesting information.
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jinks



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have the same ARC with E-2 stamped on it, but a friend of mine kept his E-2 ARC after he married and his passport visa was changed to F-2. I don't plan on taking any part-time work on the strength of the F-2 stamp in my passport - definitely not worth the risk. I'll see if anything happens at immigration when I come back to Korea at the end of the month.
ETA -I've been at the same school for 3 years and I've just re-signed for a fourth, so visa runs aren't an issue (not for a while, anyway).
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
bluelake wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Becomes F-5 not F-2, and that only if you've been a good boy for 5 years.
F-2 is marrying a Korean, CONGRATULATIONS! May I kiss the bride? Smile


Not correct. After five years at the same place, one gets an F-2, not an F-5. An F-2 is not only a marriage visa; it is a visa with a guarantor--it's just that, usually, the guarantor is a Korean spouse. A colleague of mine received an F-2 in that way.


I think you are overstating this practice...I think maybe you meant to say...
After five years...and many other considerations...it is possible...but not likely, that one may get an F2...not an F5.
I realize you were pointing out the factual mistake in a previous post, but as the OP is talking about getting an F2 from E2...as if by chance, well...let's wait and see how this turns out.
I have yet to meet anyone that has an F2 without marriage, though many have intentionally tried...but to get one unintentionally...very interesting information.



As you noted, I was not referring to the "by chance" F-2s; those I have no idea whether immigration intended to give them or not. Although I mostly agree with your correction of some of the wording of my post, I wouldn't necessarily say "many other considerations". My friend with the non-marriage F-2 received his after immi suggested he do so; he hadn't even thought of it at the time (almost two years ago). I think the more interesting event will be if he decides to get an F-5 visa when he is eligible.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake, it's amazing I haven't heard of this one before.

I wonder if that has anything to do with why foreigners sometimes get the boot after 3 years at a school? I know that isn't the reason often cited, but hmmm....
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
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My friend with the non-marriage F-2 received his after immi suggested he do so; he hadn't even thought of it at the time (almost two years ago). I think the more interesting event will be if he decides to get an F-5 visa when he is eligible.


This is seriously out there...while others get denied after requesting(read - begging and pleading)...this guy gets it offered to him...sweet. Wink
To be honest...when I read your posts about this guy...I hear Rod Serling doing the voice over...it is just that bizarre to me. Cool
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The_Source



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, here's a thought: Why don't you just ASK IMMIGRATION? The worst thing that could happen is that they realize their mistake and change it back to E-2. But since you weren't planning on finding part-time work on the strength of your F-2, there's no harm done, is there?
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