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[fromtheuk]

Unsurprisingly, you can't answer any of my valid points about the Benny Hill show.

You also fail to even respond appropriately to the points I raised about murder in society. It's not something out of the blue or being raised without reason, it has been raised because it is a problem that exists.

Perhaps you'll think twice before patronising others, especially when it is your comments which are almost totally absurd and bizarre.

For somebody to continually post on a thread they claim to have no interest in is also a little odd. It's nice stalking to you....whoops...sorry....slip of the tongue....it's nice talking to you.

I'm going to bury my head in the sand now, that way everything will be alright and all of the world's problems will disappear.

You also infer I may be interested in murdering my ex-wife? I think the word retarded springs to mind. It seems you are now 'obsessed' (according to your own definition) by murder, judging by the number of your posts on this thread.

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[fromtheuk]

It must be good for your self-esteem to churn out wholly unconvincing western propaganda. I suppose you conveniently forget to mention the absence of being murdered for just being at the wrong place at the wrong time, as you get in 'crime-free' societies in the west.

2 native teachers here in Medina recently converted to Islam, that was without any kind of preaching. They love it here and wanted to become Muslim.

Reading the news from England, it seems the biggest threat to the life of a child is from their own laughable parents, who seem to murder them and put them in the car boot, probably to show them 'dignity' I suppose.

Check out the following link, when it comes to crime statistics, Saudi Arabia has far less violent crime than all of the broken societies you claim to be so proud of. Let's face it you're sore losers, you cannot admit the fact that Saudi Arabia is far more civilized, safe and secure than you could ever be:

Cue the deafening silence, or predictable 'child gets stroppy' routine.

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/rwinslow/asia_pacific/saudi_arabia.html

INCIDENCE OF CRIME

The crime rate in Saudi Arabia is very low compared to more industrialized countries.

An analysis was done using INTERPOL data for Saudi Arabia. For purpose of comparison, data were drawn for the seven offenses used to compute the United States FBI's index of crime. Index offenses include murder, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny, and motor vehicle theft.

The combined total of these offenses constitutes the Index used for trend calculation purposes. Saudi Arabia will be compared with Japan (country with a low crime rate) and USA (country with a high crime rate).

According to the INTERPOL data, for murder, the rate in 2000 was 0.71 per 100,000 population for Saudi Arabia, 1.10 for Japan, and 5.51 for USA.

For rape, the rate in 2000 was 0.14 for Saudi Arabia, compared with 1.78 for Japan and 32.05 for USA.

For robbery, the rate in 2000 was 0.14 for Saudi Arabia, 4.08 for Japan, and 144.92 for USA. For aggravated assault, the rate in 2000 was 0.12 for Saudi Arabia, 23.78 for Japan, and 323.62 for USA.

For burglary, the rate in 2000 was 0.05 for Saudi Arabia, 233.60 for Japan, and 728.42 for USA.

The rate of larceny for 2000 was 79.71 for Saudi Arabia, 1401.26 for Japan, and 2475.27 for USA.

The rate for motor vehicle theft in 2000 was 76.25 for Saudi Arabia, compared with 44.28 for Japan and 414.17 for USA.

The rate for all index offenses combined was 157.12 for Saudi Arabia, compared with 1709.88 for Japan and 4123.97 for USA.

Now look at the US of A:

Crime Statistics
One Aggravated Assault every 34 seconds
One Property Crime every 3 seconds
One Violent Crime every 22 seconds
One Larceny Theft every 5 seconds
One Auto Theft every 27 seconds
One Burglary every 15 seconds
One Murder every 34 minutes
One Robbery every 1 minute
One Rape every 6 minutes

http://www.womensdefensecenter.com/crime.htm

Makes you want to sing the national anthem now don't it, y'all?

I think Britain's David Cameron is right, British society is broken and American society is pretty much dead when it comes to crime.

It doesn't surprise me that a conservative Muslim nation based on Islam will have the best statistics when it comes to low crime rates.

Look what you get in the USA and what you don't get in Saudi:

During fiscal year 1996,2,190,480 crime victims received assistance and/or compensation following a victimization (Office for Victims of Crime, 1997).

An estimated five out of six people will be victims of either completed or attempted violent crimes at least once in their lives (Koppel, 1987).

According to The National Women �s Study, 683,000 forcible rapes occur every year, which equals 56,916 per month; 1,871 per day; 78 per hour; and 1.3 per minute (National Center for Victims of Crime &Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992).

Findings from The National Women �s Study reveal that rape victims compared to non-crime victims were: 5.3 times more likely to have used prescription drugs non-medically (14.7 percent vs.2.8 percent); 3.4 times as likely to have used marijuana (52.2 percent vs.15.5 percent); 6 times more likely to have used cocaine (15.5 percent vs 2.6 percent);10.1 times more likely to have used hard drugs other than cocaine (12.1 percent vs. 1.2 percent); and 6.4 times more likely to have used hard drugs or cocaine (19.2 percent vs.3 percent).

Additionally,rape victims were 4.1 times more likely than non-crime victims to have contemplated suicide and 13 times more likely to have actually made a suicide attempt (Ibid ).

In the United States, there are over 3,400 animal protection shelters and only about 1,200 shelters for battered women (Buel, 1994).

One out of four women will be sexually assaulted on a college campus (Hirsch,1990).

Although the actual number of federal victims is not tracked,the Federal Bureau of Investigation opened 236,510 cases for investigation in fiscal year 1994. That same year, the U.S.Attorneys �offices issued indictments in 57,133 cases and identified 133,332 victims, a 41 percent increase from 1993. The number of child victims increased by 118 percent (Office for Victims of Crime, 1996).

Antonio Novello, the former Surgeon General,has estimated that domestic violence kills 58,000 people every five years, the same number lost in the Vietnam War (Gardner, 1992).

General Data

Law enforcement agencies across the nation recorded a Crime Index clearance rate of 21 percent;the rate was highest for murder (69 percent), and lowest (14 percent) for burglary (Ibid).

There was an average of 2.5 full-time officers for every 1,000 people in the U.S.(Ibid).

Victimization rates in 1999 were the lowest since the creation of the National Crime Victimization Survey in 1973 (Rennison, August 2000).
In 1999, there were 33 violent victimizations per 1,000 persons age 12 or older.

This represented a 10 percent decrease from 1998. The property victimization rate fell 9 percent since last year. However, there was an increase in rape (20 percent)and sexual assault (33.3 percent) rates in 1999 (Ibid).

Forty-four percent of overall violent victimization and twenty-four percent of all property crimes were reported to police in 1999 (Ibid).

An estimated 28.8 million violent and property crimes were experienced by persons over 12 in 1999. This included 21.2 million property crimes (burglary,motor vehicle theft, and household theft), 7.4 million violent crimes (rape or sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault), and about 0.2 million personal thefts (pocket picking and purse snatching) (Ibid).

Males experienced violent crime at rates 28 percent greater than that of females. However, women were sexually assaulted at rates approximately 37 percent greater than that of men (Ibid).

In 1998, urban residents accounted for only 29 percent of the U.S. population, but sustained 38 percent of all violent and property crime. The proportion was more balanced with suburban residents, who accounted for 51 percent of the population and suffered 47 percent violent and property crimes.

Rural residents,making up 20 percent of the U.S. population, were victims of 15 percent of all violent and property crime (Duhart, 2000).

Presented as a Public Service: Data Courtesy of National Center for Victims of Crime http://www.ncvc.org/

As regards Britain, it was recently classed as the most violent country in Europe. How 'civilized'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

Makes you proud to be 'free and democratic'. Not.

You are welcome losers.

[ChopChaeJoe]

I'm not sure why you need to call everyone losers (by your, I assume you mean you're) and all that, but Saudi Arabia must be an awesome place for a wealthy guy (assuming Muslim) to live. For a poor guy or a woman, not so much.

[fromtheuk]

I sit corrected, last night I realized the 'your' should be 'you're' but it was late at night.

I didn't refer to everybody that way, just the 2 posters which aren't bright enough to realize you can only try to bash others on an issue when you have something better yourself.

Therefore, I felt it necessary to utterly crush their weak arguments, and I did this using facts, not fiction.

I also noticed they both specifically mentioned Muslims, well on this issue it is as clear as night and day, Muslims in Saudi Arabia have a safe/secure place to live, unlike the crime-infested west.

I thank God the punishments here are tough enough to discourage criminality. Sadly, back in the UK, you can murder all you want, and get a nice cushy prison pad to live in, c/o the British tax payer.

I think it's fair to say life is better if you're rich, wherever you are. But things here in Saudi are pretty cheap.

[NovaKart]

If a woman was raped in Saudi Arabia do you think she would go to the police? She would probably be too ashamed. So just because rape statistics are higher in Western countries don't necessarily mean rape is more common there than in Muslim countries. Just that it's reported more.

How many women's shelters are there in Saudi Arabia? If they don't exist does that mean domestic violence doesn't exist there?

A Saudi friend of mine told me about some young men who gang raped a small boy. If I remember right he said they got 3 or 4 years in jail.

I'm not a hater of Saudi Arabia but I don't know if I could stand the extreme censorship for one thing.

[guava]

[hellofaniceguy]

The person doing the killing has a reason even when someone rational does not agree. Murders have happened since people were put on this planet and will always happen.
Sure, many murders in the U.S.; it has one of the largest populations in the world....everything is equal when you break it down.
Some people kill for the thrill...that's their reason. Some kill in the heat of pasion....prisons are full of both.

[fromtheuk]

Alright guava if that's what you want.........I win, I win, I win. It's not a crime to smile.

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