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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Fat bank account |
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All in all, the best bet would be to go to Vietnam where she could get hired easily and wouldn't be seen as a 2nd rate teacher simply because she isn't a native speaker. |
Vietnam isn't bad. They will hire non-native teachers. BUT the salary is lower. If you want to make a salary similar to what you get in Korea you should consider Taiwan. They will hire non-native teachers there. There are plenty of recruiters that will arrange it for your girlfriend, especially if you (a NET) are also signing a contract with them. They will get your GF a student visa (which I'm told also allows you to work) AND get her a job. The student visa is a formality, she doesn't have to study anything or go to classes. Taiwan has some downsides over Korea. You have to get your own plane ticket (they will likely reimburse you at some point) and you have to rent your own apartment and pay the deposit and key money (but they will likely give you some housing allowance and help you to find an apartment). Korea is more "user-friendly" and less hassle, but if you want to be completely legal and make some decent money, consider Taiwan.
I don't mean to knock Vietnam. If you want to hang out and have fun, Vietnam is probably a better destination and you should definitely go there. There are also other cool places to go in Asia. I'm just saying that in Taiwan you can earn more money. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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The salaries in Vietnam actually aren't all that bad. I am not saying that you'll make the same as in Korea, but you can still save a lot of money there. You can live like a king on $500/month and easily make $1200-1300/month and probably more....so saving 700 or 800 per month is almost as much as 1 million won....a lot of people here are only saving 1 million a month.
The better jobs in Korea are way better than the better jobs in Vietnam...but at the entry level the difference isn't as great as you might think.
The other advantage of Vietnam over Taiwan is that you'd be so close to so many places to travel to inexpensively.
The number one complaint I did have about Vietnam when we lived there, though, was that the noise and pollution in HCMC is insane. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| What OiGirl said. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Troglodyte wrote: |
I met a Polish woman a few years back. She was based in Busan. Her English was very good, but I could hear that she wasn't a native speaker. The way that she worked was like this. She'd go door to door and ask hogwan owners if they wanted to hire a native speaker from ______ (usually Canada or USA) for a couple months.
If you want to go another route, your girlfriend could try to get a visa to work as an entertainer. I've met Russians in and around Seoul that work as musicians (and often also waitresses) at restaurants. |
I think the Polish woman that you are talkng about must have been a bit "special" to have the drive and balls to do this. Going door to door asking for work from hagwons while the possibility of getting arrested isn't something many people would do.
Also I dont think that would work these days with the glut of native teachers. Hagwons have less problem getting a white face.
The second option you mention is a front for prostitution and so that's not going to work either.
OP, the only option is really to leave her at home. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
I think the Polish woman that you are talkng about must have been a bit "special" to have the drive and balls to do this. Going door to door asking for work from hagwons while the possibility of getting arrested isn't something many people would do.
Also I dont think that would work these days with the glut of native teachers. Hagwons have less problem getting a white face.
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A lot of schools don't have foreign teachers but DO want one.
I think that the majority of Korean English teachers wouldn't be able to tell the difference between someone with a native accent from somewhere in North America and someone with a non-native accent, particularly if she doesn't have a strong accent or broken English.
I have also met E2 NETs that teach extra classes (illegally) at other hogwans in their spare time. They don't do it anywhere near their official school, but plenty of them do it. That's in addition to the private classes that a LOT of E2 holders teach.
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The second option you mention is a front for prostitution and so that's not going to work either.
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Maybe the ones that you met were prostitutes. Maybe some of the ones that I saw were also prostitutes. But the few that I've talked to didn't seem to be prostitutes. There are plenty of foreigners here (legally) that have no connections to either ELT or some dodgy trade. Believe it or not, Russia does actually produce talented musicians.
Also, a lot of those Indian, Thai and Russian guys that you see around Suwon station in the evenings are legally here doing construction or factory work. Why? Because there's a lot of jobs that the Koreans just don't want to do themselves.
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OP, the only option is really to leave her at home. |
Don't listen to him. Even if your GF isn't working while here, it shouldn't be a big hassle for her to be here with you. But as has already be mentioned, it would probably be easier for the two of you to work somewhere else in Asia. |
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Freeghen
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Try one of the English Village programs at the Universities.
I did the one several years ago at Soonchunhyang University in Shinchang near Onyang/Asan. It is about an hour and a half by bus into Seoul.
You get paid for doing the program (weekly salar), housing in the dormitories is also included.
http://www.sch.ac.kr/english/index.jsp?menuID=20070830011127828343
When I went there, there was an international student from Poland who spoke English very well. There were also many students from the Philippines, Singapore, China, USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, UK amongst other places.
As long as she speaks good English, they won't care that she is Polish.
It was a good experience and I had fun. She would be on a student visa and can stay for up to 3 semesters.
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fat bank account |
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| Even if you marry her the type of visa she would get would prohibit her working. . |
How so?
If the OP marries her (I'm assuming he's american)- then she will qualify for an american passport. On the passport there will be no mention of her country of birth or former nationality. With her new english-sounding surname and CELTA, she will appear culturally completely American.
Most schools in Korea wouldn't be able to tell the difference in her accent. I knew a couple of Poles work here before. |
What? No. She'd have to live in the US for a couple of years. I've been married for 4 years and my husband got denied for a tourist visa to the US, he just got a tourist visa, after applying for the 4th time.
It's often 3 years before you qualify and then another 12 to 18 months to process citizenship. |
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varbuut
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
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| Not sure if it's useful but you might check out D-10 visa Job Seeking (6 months; especially relevant, if she's accidentally graduates from that list of 200 top world universities. Well...)?! |
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LosSeoul
Joined: 08 Jan 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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| On the passport there will be no mention of her country of birth or former nationality. |
um yes it does. right in the section that reads "place of birth" |
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