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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coralreefer_1 wrote:
These days I am not really learning new Korean except for new vocabulary related to my field of study, and studying for the books to prepare for the TOPIK and KLPT exams coming up in spring. [/b]


What level are you at re: TOPIK? I've been thinking of working towards sitting the exams in autumn. I'm struggling a bit with learning on my own so can you, or anyone else, recommend a good textbook for TOPIK?

Can anyone recommend any general textbooks? I've got Korean Made Easy and Korean for Foreigners. I'm not particularly that impressed with either.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TPR and Immersion. Get yourself Skype and start video conferencing with Koreans on Skype.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
TPR and Immersion. Get yourself Skype and start video conferencing with Koreans on Skype.


Total Physical Response? How does that jive with skype?
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
TPR and Immersion. Get yourself Skype and start video conferencing with Koreans on Skype.


I'm out in the boonies so immersion isn't an issue at all. Nonetheless, as I live so far away from anything , I need textbooks, etc. to help build my vocab as I can only really practice on a limited basis with my co-workers, etc.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
TPR and Immersion. Get yourself Skype and start video conferencing with Koreans on Skype.


Total Physical Response? How does that jive with skype?


I know a guy who gets laid a lot by meeting Korean girls on Skype for language exchange. Maybe that's what he's referring to.
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SeoulMan99



Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the problems with learning Korean is that the resources aren't as adequate as a lot of other languages. Pimsleur is expensive (not if you get a torrent) and it is rather formal, but it is still great for pronunciation and getting a feeling for the language. Get Let�s Learn Korean by B.J. Jones and use the audio to shadow (look up shadowing technique). Learn hangul well and practice writing and reading it a lot. Get decent grammar books like Francis Y.T. Park�s Speaking Korean series (Hollym Press) and Fred Lukoff�s series of Courses in Korean from Yonsei University Press and just work through them systematically.

I'd also get some graded readers or children's books and read through them until you understand what you're reading.

You could use the free FSI program designed by the US government, which while not as good as some of their other programs, it is still a solid enough program to use. It is not for the casual student though. http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php?page=Korean

Speak as much as you can with native speakers and study everyday.

Also, look up anki.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
TPR and Immersion. Get yourself Skype and start video conferencing with Koreans on Skype.


Total Physical Response? How does that jive with skype?


I imagine that it'll run like this.
1. Find some Korean with Webcam and Skype who can speak some English.
(most do but I have met Skype users without webcams)
2. Tell the Korean you want physical demonstration and how to say in Korean of these :
stand-up, sit down, go there, come here, show me three fingers, show me red, blue, yellow, touch your nose etc.
Then Koreans tells you in Korean to do these things.
Korean checks your physical response via video.
You don't have to speak Korean until you're ready to.
3. When you feel confident enough you can order the Korean in Korean to do the things in 2.
You check his response via video
4. After that, you can expand vocabulary or grammar or honorifics or TPRS.
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key for me has been to use a ton of references. This way I don't get bored with one and many of the same patterns keep repeating themselves, which further cements learning.

Currently I'm using 6 differrent books. Also, just like studying anything else, just do chunks at a time throughout the day instead of one long continuous session.

I'll study ten minutes here and ten minutes there throughout the day.
My Korean ability has come a long way using this process.

Also, as another poster stated, if I hear a word used frequently by the locals, I'll immediately learn the word and I'll never forget it.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulMan99, thanks for the tips. Wonderfully helpful.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got another one. Go here:

http://www.ted.com/translate/languages/kor

Pick a video you like that has been translated into Korean and go over the Korean script first. You could also type it out on Google Translate because even though it's pretty iffy it still works fairly well as a fast dictionary. After that then watch the video with subtitles and/or compare it to the English dialogue.
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates

I understand you were already fluent in Japanese, so had a headstart with the grammar already, but how many hours would you say you worked on Korean per day?
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coralreefer_1



Joined: 19 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
coralreefer_1 wrote:
These days I am not really learning new Korean except for new vocabulary related to my field of study, and studying for the books to prepare for the TOPIK and KLPT exams coming up in spring. [/b]


What level are you at re: TOPIK? I've been thinking of working towards sitting the exams in autumn. I'm struggling a bit with learning on my own so can you, or anyone else, recommend a good textbook for TOPIK?

Can anyone recommend any general textbooks? I've got Korean Made Easy and Korean for Foreigners. I'm not particularly that impressed with either.


For the 3rd time in a row, I have somehow neglected to get my registration done in time for the TOPIK exam. For some reason their online registration would not let me upload my picture, and I decided to try again the next day..forgot it, and now have already missed the registration deadline AGAIN for the April exam.

I wanted to try for the 고급 level, but had decided to just stick with the 증급 level because i wanted to actually make sure I passed with a great score, as I will be submitting those results to enter graduate school here. I would guess my level is probably very low level 5 (level 6 being the highest)

Although I have never seen them in the store, the kyobo online website sells books for the TOPIK exam that explain in detail all of the grammar point and vocabulary you are likely to see. These are not the books that are simple practice tests, but rather books that work much like the KLPT books...they actually explain this and that.

Here are the two books in question. If you can't find them on Kyobo online anymore, I'm sure they could order them for you in store, or for that matter, any other bookstore. Each sells (according to naver) for 15,000 won.

TOPIK Grammar - http://book.naver.com/bookdb/book_detail.nhn?bid=2508764

Topik Vocab - http://book.naver.com/bookdb/book_detail.nhn?bid=2508760

Good Luck-
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARGH, I was thinking that registration for the April TOPIK started around now. I just checked the site and it ended two days ago. Phooey. I did some practice tests and I'm consistently passing at level 2. I guess I'll just study for level 3 for the fall.
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Jeonmunka



Joined: 05 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you get to grips with the syntax, no probs.
For me, I say syntax because that was a real big stumbling block. After that sorted the raciness came in and was/is the cream. So, much more fun. But, still not elegant - not really spoken spontaneity.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fezmond wrote:
mithridates

I understand you were already fluent in Japanese, so had a headstart with the grammar already, but how many hours would you say you worked on Korean per day?


About five when I was living in Japan, and then about fifteen a day during my first three-month stay here. Altogether it took about a year and a half.
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