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Tommy
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm looking into sponsoring my partner for PR status in Canada. I have a decent job here and some savings, but I have gone through all the steps that would make me a non-resident back home (cancelling OHIP etc) Can I still be aproved as a sponsor when I won't be a resident of Canada myself until we both get there? I don't have any sort of job lined up for when I arrive, so I am a little worried that I wouldn't be approved. |
I have the same question about this. I have a job and savings here and I'm still a resident back home. I'm planing on going back to school when I return home, not work. Will this make me a bad applicant as a sponsor if I have no immediate job prospects?
I checked out that last link you provided, Captain Corea, and there was some good info but were can I find info on the requirements of a sponsor. |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| Tommy wrote: |
I have the same question about this. I have a job and savings here and I'm still a resident back home. I'm planing on going back to school when I return home, not work. Will this make me a bad applicant as a sponsor if I have no immediate job prospects?
I checked out that last link you provided, Captain Corea, and there was some good info but were can I find info on the requirements of a sponsor. |
from what I can figure out, as long as you include the info relating to your study plans, you don't need a job offer--you just do have to indicate clearly what your intentions are once you get back. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| did anybody provide the option C printout for the application package? If there are no kids involved, is the option C mandatory? |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| did anybody provide the option C printout for the application package? If there are no kids involved, is the option C mandatory? |
We did our immigration a few months ago. everything went well. Wife is with me in Canada now. Option C printout is required as far as i know. Where did you read it was for couples with kids??? IF you check the IMM5491E document ( the checklist) Option C is a supporting Document for the Sponsor. Basically proves you pay taxes/ have an income in Canada. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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i thought the option C was to fulfill the income requirement. but I heard that income requirement was only needed to be filled by people bringing over kids. I remember reading that income requirement doesn't need to be met if you're just sponsoring a wife.
all my info is secondhand though |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't need it... I have no proof of income, and our application went fine. |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| mayorgc wrote: |
i thought the option C was to fulfill the income requirement. but I heard that income requirement was only needed to be filled by people bringing over kids. I remember reading that income requirement doesn't need to be met if you're just sponsoring a wife.
all my info is secondhand though |
Well you dont need any income requirement to bring over a wife. you do for kids. I didnt have "job" when i brought my wife over but i did have to supply the Option C as a required document. Im assuming Captain corea didnt need it because hes lived outside of canada for soo long and maybe didnt pay taxes in canada? It might be a different application requirement for him than it was for me. Ive been living in canada all along and never works/lived in korea other than on vacation for longer periods of time. |
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torronto
Joined: 20 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I was wondering if anyone had to prepare any forms for tax purposes? Such as to ensure that you will not be paying taxes back in Canada when you arrive there, or other issues like that? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Just for comparison, with Canada, there is no $ minimum when sponsoring a spouse while residing out of the country. You do need to prove proof of support if you are living in Canada when initiating the sponsorship. |
Not to take this thread out of topic...
But that second part isn't true. ( unless they changed something in the last 2 years....) When i applied for my wife's sponsorship ( I initiated it within Canada) I needed ZERO proof of support/income. AS a matter of fact , I had no job ( my choice!) , no income , no bank statement proof.... Application was accepted no problem!
Captain , I was always under the impression it was the other way around. That you needed to have proof of income, a potential job and a place to live to sponsor your wife after living out of country a while... I wouldn't know though cuz I did it within Canada. All i do know is that I my application didnt require any proof of job, income or support what soever Other than showing I was a resident of Canada and I was paying taxes. At the time of the application I havent been working for over half a year because I was Taking time off. It worried me but turned out it wasnt an issue because I was living in Canada already. |
Perhaps it's dependant on whether your spouse is already in Canada or not.
As usual, the path can be a bit twisted at times... but I looked at it like this (for a Canadian sponsoring a spouse to come to Canada).
Sponsoring your family: Spouses and dependent children�How to apply - "If your spouse, partner or dependent child lives abroad, use the Application to Sponsor a Member of the Family Class." - Sponsorship Application <--- it asks about finances and such.
Sponsoring your family: Spouses and dependent children�Who can apply
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Sponsoring a spouse, partner or dependent child
You can sponsor a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children if you are a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada. To be a sponsor, you must be 18 years of age or older.
You can apply as a sponsor if your spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or accompanying dependent children live with you in Canada, even if they do not have legal status in Canada. However, all the other requirements must be met.
You can also apply as a sponsor if your spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children live outside Canada, and if they meet all the requirements.
When you sponsor a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children to become permanent residents of Canada, you must promise to support them financially. Therefore, you have to meet certain income requirements. If you have previously sponsored relatives to come to Canada and they have later turned to the government for financial assistance, you may not be allowed to sponsor another person. Sponsorship is a big commitment, so you must take this obligation seriously. |
Seems like there is a need for financial requirements...
But, I know that because I didn't work in Canada prior to sponsoring my spouse (and haven't lived there in years), and you mention being unemployed, neither of us supplied that... so perhaps it's all bunk?
I found this Immigration lawyer site that states:
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A Sponsor must demonstrate a level of income that meets the minimum necessary income or low-income cutoff (LICO) for a given family size, as established by Statistics Canada. The Sponsor is freed from this requirement if:
-The individual requiring sponsorship is the spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner of the Canadian Sponsor; or
-The individual requiring sponsorship is the dependent child of the Canadian Sponsor. |
So it seems like a spouse and direct dependant kids are exempt. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Seems like there is a need for financial requirements...
But, I know that because I didn't work in Canada prior to sponsoring my spouse (and haven't lived there in years), and you mention being unemployed, neither of us supplied that... so perhaps it's all bunk?
I found this Immigration lawyer site that states:
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A Sponsor must demonstrate a level of income that meets the minimum necessary income or low-income cutoff (LICO) for a given family size, as established by Statistics Canada. The Sponsor is freed from this requirement if:
-The individual requiring sponsorship is the spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner of the Canadian Sponsor; or
-The individual requiring sponsorship is the dependent child of the Canadian Sponsor. |
So it seems like a spouse and direct dependant kids are exempt. |
Direct dependent kids (of a Canadian citizen) don't need a sponsor (they hold derived citizenship - they just need to apply for it if they don't have their card already).
Direct dependent kids of PRs or family class (dependent) immigrations of skilled class immigrants have different rules.
There is NO income test for spousal immigrations (other than proving that you are not on welfare).
If you adopt the foreign children of your spouse and want to immigrate them it is another matter again.
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:15 am Post subject: |
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I think i misread what you wrote before =). But Yes you do need to provide Support to the person you're sponsoring for up to 3 years....
But that's just a "promise" / agreement you make to the goverment on some of the forms you have to sign.
Still , When i applied for my wifes sponsorship, being umemployed didnt affect anything at all in my application process. I had to show absolutely no proof of current income or bank accounts. As far as i know 2 years ago if you applied to sponsor your wife from Canada while your wife is living outside of canada ( which is what i did) The minimum salary requirement was overlooked and not necessary. This was written on the Gov website that you just linked too but I cant seem to find it anymore. I was completely relieved to find out about it and It all worked out. I didnt disclose any income on my application , i said i was unemployed , My wife wasnt working , we sent no bank statements. Only thing I had to send was an Option C printout for my income taxe from the year before which was really nearly 2 years before ( 2007 income year).
This was 2 years ago though. The canadian gov immigration websites do look different/ have different info than what I remember from 2 years ago. It does say at the bottom the website was updated November 2011 =) sooo perhaps something has changed since then. Just quickly googling you can easily find dozens if not hundreds of people saying theres no minimum income requirement for spouses HOWEVER these links are all 2+ years old =). I was in the exact same boat and it all worked out.
BUt My question still stands though... I'm surprised that you said :
"there is no $ minimum when sponsoring a spouse while residing out of the country. "
There might not be an exact minimum $ as an expat applying for sponsorship BUT I clearly remember telling myself "I'm glad I'm not applying for this from the outside" because They had all these other set of requirements where you had to prove you either had a job waiting for you in canada , property rental agreements, mortgage , letters that you were going back to school, property deed... All of which I suppose proves you have financial capabilities in Canada and clarifies your intentions in Canada as a Resident. which is ALOT more you have to prove than if you apply from within Canada.
Anyways , I do agree that a sponsor Should technically prove he's got sufficient income. It makes sense right? =) HOwever I just know that 2 years ago, if you sponsor your wife and kids from within canada ( as a canadian citizen) while they were out of country... YOu didnt need to show any income proof at all ( As odd as that is), no employer , no bank statements ect... It was all written in bold and big on the applications guides at the time. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I recall them wanting to see a plan and such for when were were coming... but I don't recall ever once having to show (or even state) my income. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:55 am Post subject: |
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The ONLY case where there is an income test is if you want to sponsor a dependent child of a spouse who has a dependent child (you are the grandparent and bringing in their (non-Canadian) child and the child's child.
In the not too distant future that income test will also apply to 2nd generation kids born abroad to Canadians (the 2nd generation will NOT have derived citizenship). Currently any Canadian kids born abroad who would be affected are still too young to bear children.
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Or...
If you're sponsoring extended family (grandparents and such). |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Yeah, I recall them wanting to see a plan and such for when were were coming... but I don't recall ever once having to show (or even state) my income. |
I wouldn't know. I dont think I filled the same paperwork as you. In any case I pretty certain the financial requirement is for people who are sponsoring family members other than spouses or you're own kids =). Although obviously you HAVE to support them... If the sponsor cant .. umm i suppose they shouldnt be married with kids in the first place....
they look a minimum salary when you bring in Parents and what not... they have a list of Minimum salary required per the amount of people you wanted to sponsor. which is pretty low anyways. Something like 22k for 1 person , 27k for 2 and so on.. Really not a big deal. having a minimum wage salary working 8 hours a day 5 days a week would be enough to meet the requirements to sponsor 1 or even 2 people...=) |
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