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wylies99



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Stephen Revere deals with bureaucracy to create 10 magazine Reply with quote

Media men got lost in translation

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2917207
For foreigners, working through Korea�s publication laws is one for the books
March 01, 2010
In 2008, Stephen Revere, an expat who has lived 15 years in Korea, wanted to start a magazine that would help expatriates adjusting to a new country get around the inevitable roadblocks.

Ironically, he quickly ran into a big one himself. Revere discovered he couldn�t establish the magazine without help from Korean natives.

According to current Korean media law, foreigners cannot become chief executive officers or executive editors. The media ownership law also states that foreigners cannot own a majority share of any media outlet in Korea.

So to establish his English-language magazine called �10,� Revere had to look well outside the expatriate community whose audience he sought.

�Because I wasn�t a citizen, I had to find Koreans who were willing to represent the magazine,� says Revere. �Without my Korean friends� help, 10 Magazine couldn�t have come alive.� Because of that, today he�s listed as the �managing editor,� despite being the founder.

Craig White, who has been in Korea for seven years, faced the same requirement that snarled Revere when he co-founded �Daegu Pockets,� a bilingual guide to Daegu City that currently distributes about 3,000 copies a month. But he had an out: �Most of our ownership nucleus are Koreans, which helped us overcome some legal and paperwork issues,� he says.

Ownership is not the only legal problem foreigners must negotiate to start a publication in Korea. Under Article 5 of Enforcement Ordinance of Periodical Publications, all magazines must receive a registration number from a district office before they can be legally distributed. Getting that final approval, however, also became a roadblock.

�It is extremely difficult to get this registration number,� Revere emphasizes. Although he submitted all the required documents, it took many visits, phone calls, and a long wait - for no stated reason - for Revere to finally get the approval.

Korean officials admit that navigating these laws can be both frustrating and time-consuming for foreigners.

�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�

The pre-emptive measures, however, are nothing but nuisances to those like Revere and White, who say they just want to make foreigners� lives easier.

Another government official points out the inherent complexity of any country�s legal system. The most direct and effective way to serve entrepreneurial foreigners, according to Choi Jin-on, would be for the National Assembly to modify existing laws. �But there is, of course, a very slim chance that this would become a major political issue to propel politicians,� says Choi.

In addition to the legal difficulties and bureaucratic impracticalities, a bigger problem seems to lie in the inaccessibility of Korean laws to non-Korean speakers.

�Not many foreigners know about all these legal procedures you have to go through,� Revere observed. �Although I speak Korean, things would�ve been much easier if legal information was readily available to foreigners.�

Currently, there are few places - such as the Ministry of Justice, Seoul Global Center, and Korea Bar Association - where foreigners can receive legal guidance. These, however, tend to focus on worker�s visa issues, and most of them are congregated in Seoul.

For the one million expatriates that are estimated to live in Korea, not just the legal system, but any kind of comprehensive guide to Korea is almost impossible to find, on- or off-line. �Much of Korea is inaccessible to foreigners,� Revere says. �Just figuring out what to do for the weekend can be a problem.�

That leaves most foreigners relying on word of mouth - when they can understand it.

�As a foreigner having lived in Korea for the past seven years and for my foreign peers, it has been a rollercoaster ride of emotions,� White recounts of his experience living in Korea.

�The only constant has been miscommunication, misunderstanding and frustration.�


By Tami Kim Contributing writer [[email protected]]
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taobenli



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious to know what publication laws (and other ownership laws, more broadly speaking) are like in places like the US, Canada, and the UK. I'm pretty sure Japan is similar to Korea in this. Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�


Korea talks about being an open and multicultural society, by it is lip service. Until statements like this disappear and there isn't the antagonism and just plain deep misery they feel when dealing with the other, life will continue to be arhm, interesting here.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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�It is extremely difficult to get this registration number,� Revere emphasizes. Although he submitted all the required documents, it took many visits, phone calls, and a long wait - for no stated reason - for Revere to finally get the approval.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brier wrote:
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�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�


Korea talks about being an open and multicultural society, by it is lip service. Until statements like this disappear and there isn't the antagonism and just plain deep misery they feel when dealing with the other, life will continue to be arhm, interesting here.


Agreed. Being an open society means leaving anyone legally allowed to be in the country alone to pursue happiness.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am guessing a lot of the rules regarding the media are old laws still on the books from when Korea was a military dictatorship.

Sucks but things are changing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, I don't understand........Korea is global country......
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bureaucracy exists in almost every country. It would be nice if Korea made it easier to do things, but I can't blame them for having a convoluted system. I wonder what he means by making the laws accessible for foreigners, though. I mean, I'm sure the paperwork and such is all in Korean, which is as it should be; this is Korea after all (I know Mr. Revere speaks Korean at least somewhat well, so I guess he was talking about making it more accessible for foreigners in general). I don't think the Korean government should cater to people who don't speak the language of the country. I'm pretty sure to open a business in America, for example, you'd need at least one person who speaks the predominant language of the country, English; this should definitely be the case in Korea.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fustiancorduroy wrote:
Bureaucracy exists in almost every country. It would be nice if Korea made it easier to do things, but I can't blame them for having a convoluted system. I wonder what he means by making the laws accessible for foreigners, though. I mean, I'm sure the paperwork and such is all in Korean, which is as it should be; this is Korea after all (I know Mr. Revere speaks Korean at least somewhat well, so I guess he was talking about making it more accessible for foreigners in general). I don't think the Korean government should cater to people who don't speak the language of the country. I'm pretty sure to open a business in America, for example, you'd need at least one person who speaks the predominant language of the country, English; this should definitely be the case in Korea.


It's nothing to do with speaking Korean.

Read the OP again........there are laws in place here that prevent or severely hinder foreigners from doing business in Korea.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
brier wrote:
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�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�


Korea talks about being an open and multicultural society, by it is lip service. Until statements like this disappear and there isn't the antagonism and just plain deep misery they feel when dealing with the other, life will continue to be arhm, interesting here.


Agreed. Being an open society means leaving anyone legally allowed to be in the country alone to pursue happiness.


Gotta' ask though; what if your pursuit of happiness infringes on your status of sojourn?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brier wrote:
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�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�


Korea talks about being an open and multicultural society, by it is lip service. Until statements like this disappear and there isn't the antagonism and just plain deep misery they feel when dealing with the other, life will continue to be arhm, interesting here.


Why shouldn't Korea have laws designed to protect the interests of its citizens? Many countries have laws regarding foreign ownership of industries, particularly the media. I for one am not particular happy that large sections of the British media are owned by an Australian.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But shouldn't someone like Stephen Revere have enough credibility with Koreans by now that he should be able to start a magazine without facing all of those hurdles? We're not talking about Rupert Murdoch, here.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very sad to see the way foreigners who have established themselves as permanent residents are still largely treated as pets or mascots.

I've seen Stephen Revere on a number of Korean shows over the years and usually it is him clowning around eating some fish or some such while Koreans remark about how surprised they are at his ability to use chopsticks and speak basic phrases.

And that commercial for noodles with Robert Holley? Man, that guy has also been on a number of different TV shows and he is always treated like a pet hamster. Isaac Durst... oh my word.

Until Koreans start treating us like humans I refuse to participate in any of these media.

I have lived here a long time too and used to get asked a lot if my family would be on TV or in the news media because my kids were some of the first white kids to be in Korean school and so were very visible. I am so glad I never gave in...

We did enter a samulnori (Korean drumming and percussion) contest one time as a family and won the whole shootin' match. The audience's collective jaw dropped. At first, because we were foreigners but later because we could actually play the instruments better than the other groups.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
But shouldn't someone like Stephen Revere have enough credibility with Koreans by now that he should be able to start a magazine without facing all of those hurdles? We're not talking about Rupert Murdoch, here.


Granted, starting a small readership expat magazine is not the same as taking over a national newspaper.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
brier wrote:
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�We understand that these limitations pose constraints,� concedes an official from the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism, who asked not to be named. �However, just like other countries, we have to have our own laws regarding foreigners to protect Koreans� interests.�


Korea talks about being an open and multicultural society, by it is lip service. Until statements like this disappear and there isn't the antagonism and just plain deep misery they feel when dealing with the other, life will continue to be arhm, interesting here.


Why shouldn't Korea have laws designed to protect the interests of its citizens? Many countries have laws regarding foreign ownership of industries, particularly the media. I for one am not particular happy that large sections of the British media are owned by an Australian.


I am not against the laws as they are written. I don't have a problem with this. What I am against is the attitude of the government official. Would he say these laws are protecting Koreans against other Koreans? No, of course not. It is his attitude that forms a hidden trade barrier to conducting business.


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