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classydame



Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Misery loves company Reply with quote

So what started as an ok experience in Korea is quickly becoming a nightmare. The director just opened up a new kindergarden and the previously made promise of no split shifts has quickly dissolved. Not only am I teaching the new kindy classes, but also all the old elementary and middle school classes. I'm now working at the hagwon from 10-9 most days with a useless 3.5 hour break in the middle. I tried to talk to the director but he wouldn't budge. The closest I could come to a resolution was agreeing to revisit the schedule again in a month. When the month is up, what is the best way to approach this?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave. Just up and leave. The sooner the bosses learn that treating the employees like slaves doesn't work, the better off the employees will be. And, apparently, the only way to get that message across to a boss in Korea is to just quit without notice.
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classydame



Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather not take that route because I like the Korean teachers and would feel bad if they had to cover for me. Plus my hubby and I are the only foreign teachers, so the school would pretty much be screwed. I'd rather come to a mutually beneficial arrangement than screw anyone over. Crazy, I know.
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brier



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leave. Just up and leave. The sooner the bosses learn that treating the employees like slaves doesn't work, the better off the employees will be. And, apparently, the only way to get that message across to a boss in Korea is to just quit without notice.


classydame wrote:
I'd rather not take that route because I like the Korean teachers and would feel bad if they had to cover for me. Plus my hubby and I are the only foreign teachers, so the school would pretty much be screwed. I'd rather come to a mutually beneficial arrangement than screw anyone over. Crazy, I know.


If you don't want to quit the job, then there isn't much to say but bare the year with the employer and then move on. Korean employers don't generally care about input from employees in my opinion.
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Michelle



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Misery loves company Reply with quote

classydame wrote:
So what started as an ok experience in Korea is quickly becoming a nightmare. The director just opened up a new kindergarden and the previously made promise of no split shifts has quickly dissolved. Not only am I teaching the new kindy classes, but also all the old elementary and middle school classes. I'm now working at the hagwon from 10-9 most days with a useless 3.5 hour break in the middle. I tried to talk to the director but he wouldn't budge. The closest I could come to a resolution was agreeing to revisit the schedule again in a month. When the month is up, what is the best way to approach this?


Hi There,

The best way is just to quit. Maybe they will smarten up in future if you do that. They need a shock then to change what they do.

As for the other teacher covering they have ways and means, don't worry.

It's them who have done you the huge disservice here. You can try contacting ATEK but it is only starting out and not sure how much help they will be able to give you.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it all in the same building? If it's a different address..you can't work there. Visa issues and all that.
If you hate it leave. You don't want to screw over your boss, but it's ok for him to screw you over and go back on his word. Do you see something wrong here? What else did he say he'd do? Pay you pension? Bonus? Return flight? If you can't trust him you can't trust him.
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classydame



Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and I have 11 classes today. Just thought I would bitch more:)
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

classydame wrote:
Oh, and I have 11 classes today. Just thought I would bitch more:)


Shoot. Buh bye!
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what I'd do but if you want to shoot for a "a mutually beneficial arrangement" be my guest.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goon-Yang wrote:
You don't want to screw over your boss, but it's ok for him to screw you over and go back on his word. Do you see something wrong here?


I changed the size of one part of Goon-Yang's post just in case the OP missed it.
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classydame



Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, something mutually beneficial would be best, but something which doesn't result in me being back home broke as a joke would be second best:)
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's always Japan!
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

classydame wrote:
Well, something mutually beneficial would be best, but something which doesn't result in me being back home broke as a joke would be second best:)

Is he in breach of contract?
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always demand that you get the exact contact hours in the contract not just the school hours. That way when they pull this crap you have something to support you.

You also made the second mistake by actually doing it one day. Once you agreed to show up and teach the extra kindy classes and have your schedule changed, you lost.

I don't know why you are asking for advice here. You are not listening to the only reasonable things to do. You are letting fear and guilt stop you from getting what you deserve.

Just quit and find a new job. Demand a letter of release from your contract and move on.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this situation is too much for you (and it appears to be) then tend in your resignation and seek other work.

By doing that you screw over no one as your school will have time to find replacements.

Talking to your boss and saying the split and number of classes is too much for you and that you prefer to quite before burning out is your right. Your boss may see this and think he wants to keep you two. He could hire another foreign teacher to teach kindie as a result.
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