Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Koreans are Flocking to the Philippines to Learn English

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
birdflower



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Koreans are Flocking to the Philippines to Learn English Reply with quote

One of the benefits of going to the Philippines to learn English is that it's cheaper than going to countries like the United States and Canada.

Koreans are Flocking to the Philippines to Learn English MOD EDIT

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/09/113_51729.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is old news. A lot of them also come home complaining about the accents, food, poverty, etc., claiming they'll never go back. Additionally, I've also had students head down for month-long programs and come back with English skills that have actually regressed. They go down with a Korean group, only study and socialize with other Koreans, and essentially walk away with nothing. I'm sure this isn't the case for everyone, but these trips seem to work about as well as the English villages do here.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, businesses teaching English in Philippines are actually going bust.

Due to the lack of any sort of quality or service that can be provided in that country.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: korean friend Reply with quote

One of my best Korean friends studied in the Philippines for a year. His English is very good, not perfect, but better than 95% of Korea. I think it's a good idea for them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Philippines to learn English? Ha! That's like going to Mexico to learn Russian!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
As far as I know, businesses teaching English in Philippines are actually going bust.

Due to the lack of any sort of quality or service that can be provided in that country.

Yup, I know a guy who owns a school there and he is having serious difficulties.

OP, that link is 6 months old. Why the need to post it now?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know why they pour into the Philippines but they have reservations about Filipinos teaching here.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousin's son spend 3 months in Philippines. He came back completely different. He turned into a giant slacker. He stopped studying and only cared about playing video games.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what happend is, that Korean businessmen saw a way to exploit their own people as usual. history repeating itself..
so they opened up schools, marketed them as great establishments, gullable mothers sent their kids, and then the scams were exposed.
charging high prices, offering great service, in return they got philipino teachers who were not even that good at English themselves, no solid curriculum, bad food, bad service and no eduction. more and more scams arose, more and more schools opened up, more and more stupid mothers sent their kids there in hopes to boost their childrens English to give them a headstart.. reminds me of 90% of the hakwons in this country just scams!

Rule number 1.. Don't trust a bald barber , he has no repsect for your hair
rule number 2.. Don't trust a skinny chef, he doesn't eat his own food..

so .. In Korea..

Don't trust a school owner who doesn't speak the language he is offering to teach
Dont trust a school owner who has never taught a day in his life!

Dont trust a school owner who doesn't hold an Education degree!

if we closed down all the hakwons in Korea where the bosses fall into the above category there wouldnt be in hakwons remaining!!

the problem is not education, the problem is its become such a lucrative business that businessmen are stepping into the roles as educators but don't have the experience and know how.. but becuase they pump so much money into their francises they serve up bad quality but still get the people.. reminds me of Starbucks or mcdonalds... total garbage but people are lining up!! ohhh the power of marketing!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well said. Worked at an international school there (Philippines) run by Koreans. They put me in charge of PE and ESL . The place was a total disaster from the get-go. I knew it and my wife knew it but at that time we really needed the money. I managed to survive about 3 months then quit when the NBI (National Bureau of Investigation) closed down the school for a day because of some unknown reason. We asked why but getting a staright answer is as elusive as...well ya know. School opened back up the next day. I didn't care. With all the stupidity that was going on I had it. Anyway a few months later the place closed down. Really sad. There were some really great Korean and Filipino kids there. I know tuition was extremely high but the school lasted only 7 months.
So much more could be said but I'll stop here.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kinerry



Joined: 01 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
what happend is, that Korean businessmen saw a way to exploit their own people as usual. history repeating itself..
so they opened up schools, marketed them as great establishments, gullable mothers sent their kids, and then the scams were exposed.
charging high prices, offering great service, in return they got philipino teachers who were not even that good at English themselves, no solid curriculum, bad food, bad service and no eduction. more and more scams arose, more and more schools opened up, more and more stupid mothers sent their kids there in hopes to boost their childrens English to give them a headstart.. reminds me of 90% of the hakwons in this country just scams!

Rule number 1.. Don't trust a bald barber , he has no repsect for your hair
rule number 2.. Don't trust a skinny chef, he doesn't eat his own food..

so .. In Korea..

Don't trust a school owner who doesn't speak the language he is offering to teach
Dont trust a school owner who has never taught a day in his life!

Dont trust a school owner who doesn't hold an Education degree!

if we closed down all the hakwons in Korea where the bosses fall into the above category there wouldnt be in hakwons remaining!!

the problem is not education, the problem is its become such a lucrative business that businessmen are stepping into the roles as educators but don't have the experience and know how.. but becuase they pump so much money into their francises they serve up bad quality but still get the people.. reminds me of Starbucks or mcdonalds... total garbage but people are lining up!! ohhh the power of marketing!!


I work for two schools, one owner has no degrees, the other has an MBA from Columbia.
Both schools are excellent, both are excellent teachers.

...Newb
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guys going to the P.I. to learn English spend more time mongering with the ladies! So of course they are not improving their English skills...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But to monger with them at least some language is required...that being English Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International