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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Expats invited to suggest regulatory reform Reply with quote

hmmmm

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2010/03/09/201003090048.asp

The Prime Minister's Office receives suggestions on how to improve regulations that are discriminatory or troublesome for foreign residents or overseas Koreans.

Rules that cause inconvenience in immigration, personal identification, status change, economic activities or daily lives of non-Koreans, foreign spouses of Koreans or overseas Koreans could be examples. Ideas on regulations or systems deemed as discriminatory against foreign nationals are also welcome.

Please e-mail your proposals to [email protected] or fax them to (02) 2100-2323 by the end of March. Outstanding ideas will be rewarded with gift certificates.

The Prime Minister's Office will also collect suggestions from foreign chambers of commerce in Korea as well as metropolitan and provincial governments, and formulate deregulation or revision plans in May after coordination with related government branches.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coolies

I sent mine.
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Bailsibub



Joined: 22 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble I have with measures like these is that all laws and rules in this country are chosen based on what Koreans want�not what the other 1,000,000+ (taxpaying) foreigners want.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow a country a picking laws based on what their citzens want. Never heard of that...

Also you mean all those taxes that you pay yet many can claim back when they leave the country?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bailsibub wrote:
The trouble I have with measures like these is that all laws and rules in this country are chosen based on what Koreans want�not what the other 1,000,000+ (taxpaying) foreigners want.


So we should choose "all laws and rules" in Canada or America or any other country according to what a small minority of foreigners want?

Not to mention that the fact that not all foreigners want the same thing.

DDD workers here outnumber teachers exponentially and I bet anyone of them would gladly trade positions with us.
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Bailsibub



Joined: 22 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
Wow a country a picking laws based on what their citzens want. Never heard of that...


Yes, but what about the 1,000,000+ tax-paying residents like you and me? We have no representation here. This is what I'm talking about.

To Koreans, you and I are just visitors, contributing nothing to the economy or the culture. Sure, you get some half-azzed attempt at reaching out by a government official sometimes. But he's just trying to get a blurb in some lame Korean rag about how Korea is the 'Hub of Asia.'

The bottom line is that Korean people are the ones calling the shots; discrimination against foreign people (or even people who don't look Korean) is simply an aspect of this culture. And if it came down to you finding out why this politician couldn't follow through with what you emailed him about, he would be the first one to tell you, "Sorry, I just can't change things. It's what Korean people want."

jiberish wrote:
Also you mean all those taxes that you pay yet many can claim back when they leave the country?

I'm not aware that you can get your income tax back when you leave Korea. Are you talking about the pension payment?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bailsibub wrote:
jiberish wrote:
Wow a country a picking laws based on what their citzens want. Never heard of that...


Yes, but what about the 1,000,000+ tax-paying residents like you and me? We have no representation here. ?


Which according to the article above is attempting to change. The PMO is open to suggestions from foreigners. So why not fire off a couple?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
Wow a country a picking laws based on what their citzens want. Never heard of that...

Also you mean all those taxes that you pay yet many can claim back when they leave the country?


I've ignored you in the other threads you're crapping in; however, this comment needs to be addressed. The issue here is that the Korean government isn't making laws based on what its citizens want but rather is making laws which affect over a million foreigners here all without any concern about the affects those laws may have on those foreigners. Another issue is that the particular portion of the citizenry the legislative committee involved in making some of those laws has been conferring with is, essentially, a Korean version of the KKK.

Regarding the taxes, I also am unaware of tax reimbursement for departing the country permanently. There is, as the poster above mentioned, the issue of some, but not all, of us getting our pension contributions returned.
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Aelric



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bailsibub wrote:
jiberish wrote:
Wow a country a picking laws based on what their citzens want. Never heard of that...


Yes, but what about the 1,000,000+ tax-paying residents like you and me? We have no representation here. This is what I'm talking about.

To Koreans, you and I are just visitors, contributing nothing to the economy or the culture. Sure, you get some half-azzed attempt at reaching out by a government official sometimes. But he's just trying to get a blurb in some lame Korean rag about how Korea is the 'Hub of Asia.'

The bottom line is that Korean people are the ones calling the shots; discrimination against foreign people (or even people who don't look Korean) is simply an aspect of this culture. And if it came down to you finding out why this politician couldn't follow through with what you emailed him about, he would be the first one to tell you, "Sorry, I just can't change things. It's what Korean people want."

jiberish wrote:
Also you mean all those taxes that you pay yet many can claim back when they leave the country?

I'm not aware that you can get your income tax back when you leave Korea. Are you talking about the pension payment?



To answer the tax question, you get the majority of your deducted taxes back a few months after your contract ends. Unless you are American, this tax return will likely go straight back into your home country to make up for back taxes while you were abroad, though Americans are allowed a tax free two year period if the work abroad but make less the $80,000 per year.

If your contract doesn't explicitly mention these things, then you might want to renegotiate with your employer to make sure that it is in case there are any legal disputes regarding this in the future. This is true for both Hakwon and Public and Uni jobs.

And no, it is separate from your pension.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCal wrote:
Another issue is that the particular portion of the citizenry the legislative committee involved in making some of those laws has been conferring with is, essentially, a Korean version of the KKK.


Yes they resemble the KKK when they run schemes like this...

I am curious to see why people are so up in arms about things they aren't getting? What services do you want from the goverment? What are people looking for the goverment to