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RENEWING an F-4 Visa
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pkjh



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my F-4 visa renewed a few days ago in Seoul. However, a week before, I tried getting it renewed in Daegu, and they said they couldn't do it, even though I had the same docs I had when I orginally applied. I orginally applied in Seoul, but moved to Daegu. So, I decided to use the same address in Seoul, the one I originally used, and get it renewed there. When there, the immigration guy said I didn't need any of those docs, all I needed was to fill out the renewal form and show him my passport and F-4 card. So, now I'm good until 2010. It cost 30,000 won.

I just wish the immigration offices in the provinces knew what they are doing.
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eurasian76



Joined: 09 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they put in a whole new visa that takes up another page of your passport?

Or just a new date on the the back of the ARC?

(I havent renewed yet and I dont have many pages in my passport left so I guess I might have to get some pages added if thats the case)

Also, how long did it take? Could you pick it up same day or did you have to leave your passport/ARC and have you come and pick it up a few days later?

Thanks
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pkjh



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending how busy the immigration office is. Get 30,000-won worth of those stamps, fill out the renewal form (신청서) and then once you get to the desk, it takes maybe 10 minutes tops. The guy didn't even look at my passport, and documents I brought, and typed some stuff into the computer and put a new date on the back of the F-4 card. He even put scotch tap over the new date so it wouldn't rub off so easily.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have to go to the immi office thats closest to the address on your Card, or can you just go any immi office?
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jiyull



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're a Korean male born outside of South Korea, you don't have to do the conscripted service.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiyull wrote:
If you're a Korean male born outside of South Korea, you don't have to do the conscripted service.


Not necessarily.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/168210_korean08.html

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As Chun belatedly learned, the South Korean government determines citizenship not by where a person is born, but by the citizenship of his or her parents.

In Chun's case, it appears a family member -- maybe his paternal grandfather or his father, who is divorced from Chun's mother and lives in South Korea -- entered his name in the nation's family census registry, the hojok.

Chun's parents emigrated to the United States in 1973 and became naturalized citizens. His father completed his doctorate in engineering at the University of Illinois-Champaign, where Young Jin, the middle of three sons, was born eight days before Christmas 1978.

His family lived in Chicago for a decade, then spent two years in South Korea. After his parents separated, his mother, Katie Chun, moved her sons to Bellevue and opened a formal wear shop in Seattle.

Young Jin Chun, an art major, graduated with honors from the UW in 2002. He wanted to be a teacher after earning a master's degree. But his mother suggested that, with college debt and no money for graduate school, he ought to join the U.S. Army to gain tuition benefits.

"You're kidding, Mom," he responded, and that ended that.

Later, she suggested he travel overseas. "You're Korean. Learn the Korean culture," she said she told him. "Then if any job opportunity comes to you, you can do it."

Chun took a job teaching English in Boondang City near Seoul, leaving Seattle in December 2002 on a one-year work visa. The next month, he tried to upgrade to a two-year residential visa. That's when he discovered he had dual citizenship.

In September, during a brief visit to Seattle, he accompanied his mother to the South Korean Consulate to renounce his Korean citizenry.

Too late.

"The problem is, he didn't make a choice between Korean and U.S. nationality before he turned 18 years old," as stipulated by Korean law, said South Korean Consul Byung-ha Chung.

Chung said his government does not force foreigners to serve in its military. But Chun is a Korean citizen, he said, and like all male citizens ages 18 to 35, is required to perform military service. Even those who live outside Korea are obligated if they stay in the country for an extended time.

"It's just a normal application of the law," the consul said. "Even though it's an embarrassing situation (for Chun's family), the law should be applied."



I believe the law has been amended in 2006 to prevent this type of thing. Still, any gyopo male over the age of 18 better check with the Korean Consulate in their home country to see whether or not they are in the hojok before trying to come visit Korea.
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jiyull



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the f4 visa that made my parents give officially give up their Korean citizenship..so I should be okay.
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

I went today (3/10/2010). This was my first time renewing my F4.

-The fee was 30,000 won + 10,000 won renewal fee.
-I took a new picture, but i'm not sure if it was required.
-I didn't bring any documents with me, but they did make me go get a new version of a document across the street at the 동사무소. It only costs 1,000 won. They said it was a one time thing.

Now one thing that worries me, my ARC is updated and brand new. But on my passport, I didn't get any new stamps. Is that normal? Shouldn't I have a new f4 stamp or something?
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone?
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pkjh



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ normal. If you get a your passport renewed, be sure to bring the old one with you when exiting and entering the country. Actually not sure about that, but might help.
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Johnwayne



Joined: 28 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went and renewed my F4 about a month ago now at the Immigration Office at Omokgyo in Seoul and I only needed to pay 30000 won for the stamps, give the guy the renewal form with my passport and that was that. Nothing else required.

The curious thing was the visa got extended 3 years instead of 2. Did something change (or has that always been the case with renewals) or did the guy make a mistake? First time renewing by the way.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnwayne wrote:


The curious thing was the visa got extended 3 years instead of 2. Did something change (or has that always been the case with renewals) or did the guy make a mistake? First time renewing by the way.


no mistake, the new 3 year thing came in from last year sometime.
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jamuraisack



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi guys,

my f-4 expires this week but i won't be able to get back to korea for another couple of weeks. does anyone know what the procedure is for renewing an expired f-4 visa?
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cavationa



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to go off topic, but can someone tell me: If someone renounces their Korean citizenship, is their name actually removed from the family register?

My mother is Korean, and doesn't want to renounce her citizenship because of this.
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pkjh



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamuraisack wrote:
hi guys,

my f-4 expires this week but i won't be able to get back to korea for another couple of weeks. does anyone know what the procedure is for renewing an expired f-4 visa?


I've been wondering about this too. Mine expires in July and I don't think I'll be in Korea until well after that. Is there a way to renew while you're out of the country.
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