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What % lesson planning/classroom time do ur co-teachers do?
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bbb0777



Joined: 24 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: What % lesson planning/classroom time do ur co-teachers do? Reply with quote

In terms of lesson planning and classroom teaching time, what percentage do your co-teachers do of each?

I'm happy with my situation, but we have some completely-new-to-co-teaching teachers at my school now who are asking me what co-teachers should do. I can tell them what co-teachers/I do here, but I really have no idea what the norm is in general. So, I'd like to give a slightly better answer...and I'm kind of curious as well.

Thanks,
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jmuns



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make copies of worksheets, translate when needed, and hit kids with a stick when they get out of line. thats all i ask of them.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Co-teachers are the oil that makes the class run smoothly (that's my philosophy, anyway).

I plan and deliver the lesson. Co-teachers sometimes help by modelling dialogs - but their main function is classroom management and translations. They also act as a bridge between Western and Korean culture (so the students can understand cultural differences). Most also help the students during Task Based Learning Activities.

Basically, a good co-teacher allows you to deliver the lesson smoothly. Without a co-teacher, PS classes can just degenerate into frustrating classroom management exercises.
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my lessons? I do 100% with the occasional request for input or translation. For their lessons? They do 100% with the occasion request for input or editing or explanation.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called co-teaching, not co-one person translates while the other jumps around.

YMMV, but I dislike co-teachers who walk around and only translate/discipline. They will inevitably get bored, and when you need them, they will have spaced out. I feel sorry for NT who do 100% of the work in class. It's exhausting, especially at when student after student thinks an acceptable answer is "Huh?" or "What?" while looking around at the other students.

I take care of classroom management and so do they. I discipline and so do they. I plan the majority of the lessons but that's just because I like the work, lol. Co-teachers should plan together.

My coworker and I have a no Korean rule. She has never spoken Korean to the students since she's been there (English in English). At first it was hard, but I think it's worth it in the end.
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sulperman



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Co-Teacher Lesson Prep- 0%
Class teaching- .0002%

I don't mind doing everything, and there is no way I'm gonna be ordering around some 50 year old ladies who have been teaching their whole lives if they don't ask for it first. If they want to help, they can help. Hasn't happened yet.

The next teacher after me is gonna be in a world of hurt if they are a newbie. Then again, maybe if I acted like a newbie they would do more than nothing.
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bbb0777



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manuel_the_Bandito wrote:
For my lessons? I do 100% with the occasional request for input or translation. For their lessons? They do 100% with the occasion request for input or editing or explanation.


Do you mean you split the classes, or each take 1/2 of a class in separate rooms, or...?
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Senior



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two old ajummas. 0% prep. Contribution to class? Sand bagging and undermining me at every turn.

26 year old, cute agasshi. 5% prep. 2% class room participation a little lax on discipline, but if I discipline her Wink she will discipline the students. Try to guess which are my favorite classes. Laughing
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tokkibunni8



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had a coteacher, they'd prrobably be doing pretty much nothing! Homeroom teachers come in wiith their classes and space out.
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JFuller317



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plan all my own lessons, and my co-teachers seem to like it better that way. I'm in a middle school, but for many of the students, the lessons in the textbook are way beyond their actual level. I try to use my lessons to help them really get the basics down. My co-teachers do a lot of translating for me, and that's about it.
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bbb0777



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, good to have some other info. In case anyone searches (haha, like the search here works), I'll add our info:

Prep - <1% - just answering the occasional question I have about the knowledge base of the students.

Classroom teaching time - <2%

The most active will stand in front/bring up other points/give translations unprompted (<1 min a class)/and help with quieting students if they think it would make things go faster.

Most hang out in a combination of the front/back, translate for about < 30 seconds total a class, and I think would help a little with discipline if really necessary, but it never is.

The least active hang out in back exclusively and look bored/unhappy. Though will translate/etc. if prompted.
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JFuller317



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, I think they enjoy not having to plan a lesson for that particular class. None of mine ever look unhappy.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFuller317 wrote:
Honestly, I think they enjoy not having to plan a lesson for that particular class. None of mine ever look unhappy.


Exactly. We cut their work load by about 40%. We probably double the main handlers job, but your co-teachers get a pretty sweet deal.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it all depends on the co-teacher, but of the ones i've had over the years:

planning: 0% (in all cases)
co-teaching: 0-40%
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bbb0777



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFuller317 wrote:
Honestly, I think they enjoy not having to plan a lesson for that particular class. None of mine ever look unhappy.


Oh they all enjoy that of course. Assuming it isn't just a particularily bad mix of students - most have fun in the lessons. At least the first time they see it, maybe by the 5th not quite as much fun...

Just I've had a few co-teachers who can look quite bored doing nothing in back, and a few who also just...generally have unhappy expressions. This is maybe 2/20+ I've worked with.


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