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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Public school questions Reply with quote

Just some quick questions on working at a public school in korea.

* The working hours are usually 9-3 or around there somewhere like in public schools at home ?

* Holidays are for 3 months paid if i'm correct ? I guess that leaves alot of time to travel etc...

Any other info on working at public schools is greatly appreciated ...
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Welsh Canadian



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Public school questions Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
Just some quick questions on working at a public school in korea.

* The working hours are usually 9-3 or around there somewhere like in public schools at home ?

* Holidays are for 3 months paid if i'm correct ? I guess that leaves alot of time to travel etc...

Any other info on working at public schools is greatly appreciated ...


All I can say is that every school will vary. If you sign for Canadian Connection for the Jellola provinces you may get the above.

But like I said it varies and having 3 months paid is sort of rare I guess
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very often public schools do not permit you to take the same vacation as the Korean teachers get. You may be required to come into the school every day of vacation, even with nothing to do. It's called "desk warming."
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public schools in Korea have two vacation times in summer and winter. The students are out of class officially for 4- 6 weeks each time, but this does not mean the foreign teacher can be out as well.
All public schools must use the EPIK contract template which gives 18- 21 work day paid vacation. A few variances of up to 5+ weeks for remote or hard to fill areas like Gangwon. BUT your contract means you can (and most likely will) be required to do' desk warming' or camps during the main vacation periods.
The EPIK contract always splits your vacation to be taken half the days at a time ( half winter and half Summer break)

The 22 contract hours you are required to teach is usually between 9-4, BUT your EPIK contract states you have to stay the 8 hours in the school- often to about 4.30- 5pm.

There are many after school hagwon type programs that happen inside public schools and often these will have less vacation time, more like the hagwons with 10-12 days. The after school program work hours will usually be about 11am-6pm.

It is difficult to get leave without pay or swap your winter vacation etc in between the main vacation times unless you can show it is a very special event

There is an EPIK contract all schools must follow, but there is individual flexibility on a case by case basis inside all schools across Korea. You may get an easy relaxed environment where you are not heavily monitored for leaving early or you may get a school that has you clocking in and being at school every contract minute you have to be.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't count on getting any more vacation days than your contract days. Last year the Provincial Office of Education (POE) cracked down in my area, and I was made to 'deskwarm' the entire school vacation - while the K teachers were absent.

Also, the EPIK contract states you have to work the 'normal hours of a K public servant', i.e., 8.20am - 4.30pm (including a 40 min paid lunch break (where you are sometimes expected to work)). It is rare for a 'lucky' teacher to be able to go home early after their last class. In fact, POE's are dreaming up all sorts of ways to extract the most English hours from their GET's, i..e., supplimentary afterschool classes, teachers' English classes etc (should be paid after 4.30pm).

However, these hours are misleading. If you land a rural school, you may have an hour long commute/waiting time to get to school. And you may have even longer waiting to start work at 8.20am. However, if you are lucky, you may get a room 5 mins from school.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school questions Reply with quote

Most of what I say applies to city POEs like Busan and Ulsan that use EPIK. It may vary for rural areas significantly.

dbee wrote:
The working hours are usually 9-3 or around there somewhere like in public schools at home ?


Public school working hours require you to be there for eight hours, inclusive of a paid one-hour lunch. 9-5, 8:30-4:30 are both common. You'll typically teach four to five regular classes per day which finish at 2pm at the latest. Your contract will specify 22 classes per week, so some days you'll teach more than others. Sometimes, you can teach "after school" classes, which means classes after 2pm that are optional for the kids. You get paid for these if you go over your 22 classes per week at a rate of about 20,000/hr. If you have no after school classes you'll typically sit around in your office and make lesson plans or browse the web or sleep.

If you work after 5pm then you get overtime rate * 1.5, which is 30,000. This, of course, is optional.

Basically, expect to be there for eight hours a day teaching just over half of that time.


dbee wrote:
Holidays are for 3 months paid if i'm correct ? I guess that leaves alot of time to travel etc...


Holidays are around 10 days in both winter and summer periods. Though in rural areas you might get more. Even though the kids are away you will probably be expected to come to school anyway teach camps or desk warm. If you renew you get an additional two weeks (14 days) home leave. Thus, your summer vacation can be quite good.

If you're considering hagwon or PS, I'd highly recommend public school. Better vacation, less work, less stress.
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school questions Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
Just some quick questions on working at a public school in korea.

* The working hours are usually 9-3 or around there somewhere like in public schools at home ?

* Holidays are for 3 months paid if i'm correct ? I guess that leaves alot of time to travel etc...

Any other info on working at public schools is greatly appreciated ...


Yes. Your union local will also have a shop steward you can file grievances with if your school violates your contract in any way. After six years of teaching you'll be entitled to a one-year sabbatical for professional development, or a six-month sabbatical after three years. During your two-month summer vacation you can leave the country or pick up extra work and make some extra money teaching remedial "summer school." If you happen to find the job to stressful you can also take up to one term of stress leave after consulting with a doctor.

...just like at home, yep.
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8:40 - 4:40. public school contracts give you 21 vacation days plus national holidays. if school is out and you dont have vacation, you will have to warm your desk or do english camps.
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thoreau



Joined: 21 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school questions Reply with quote

Welsh Canadian wrote:
dbee wrote:
Just some quick questions on working at a public school in korea.

* The working hours are usually 9-3 or around there somewhere like in public schools at home ?

* Holidays are for 3 months paid if i'm correct ? I guess that leaves alot of time to travel etc...

Any other info on working at public schools is greatly appreciated ...


All I can say is that every school will vary. If you sign for Canadian Connection for the Jellola provinces you may get the above.


I"m in South Jeolla and every public school teacher I know in at school from 830 to 500 M-F. A few have less hours on the day they travel to a second school.

This year the max vacation with JLP was 1 month (February) and less if you had an EPIK contract. They really worked the camps this past winter.

In the summer my contract gives me 8 days of vacation. We are waiting to see if there will be camps and/or deskwarming on the other days.
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Michelle



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school questions Reply with quote

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