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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom
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| oldfatfarang wrote: |
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| Countrygirl wrote: |
And if they force you to desk warm during summer/winter you might want to bring up the fact that they didn't feel the need to follow the contract to the letter when they needed you. |
Sadly, this is a strategy that doesn't work. Your school will just quote some nameless mandarin in the POE as the person who is making you desk-warm.
This happened to me - and I was really ................. , because I'd donated countless hours by coming 40 mins early, working lunch etc - everyday. They made me deskwarm, and wouldn't even give me one extra paid day off. I was so annoyed I resigned.
The moral of the story - you give - they take. Be warned. |
Really? Did your school know you came in early and worked lunch and such? Was it like a formal arrangement that was broken at the last minute? (Just curious) |
Yes, my school 'approved' extra paid vacation, and I booked and paid for it. We also signed another contract for a further year, however, two weeks after re-signing - they reneged and said some POE guy had canceled my extra holidays. This cost me money in cancellation fees etc, not to mention embarrassement. |
I feel bad for your experience (I remember reading about it), and I've was also screwed by my school. That's when I learned the hard way to get everything in writing and to ask what I will be paid specifically for each and every extra teaching job I do.
I think the best rule of thumb, when it comes to Korean public schools is to not give more than you can afford to lose (in terms of time and energy) and to find a way to have your favour paid back as soon as possible.
Scratch-my-back-and-I'll-scratch-yours has only worked for me when it comes to dealing with co-teachers but never when it comes to admin. Making your co-teacher feel guilty because you have to seat warm might result in the co-teacher going to bat for you to get you extra time off or in some other way. It doesn't always work which is why I never give up more than I'm willing to lose. |
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salgichawa
Joined: 18 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| My VP has asked me to do a once-a-month 2 hour Saturday morning drama class in exchange for full days off during deskwarming. I thought it was a decent trade (getting an extra 10 or so days in the home country or wherever). Perhaps you could do something similar. |
Keep in mind though that your VP (or for that matter Principal) has only limited authority to allow this.
These forums are full of stories from teachers who thought they were getting extra days off (as they had negotiated with the VP/P) only to find the higher-ups in the Education Board said "No way". The VP/P can not overrule these folks...as the EB is the one in charge. |
Did they get their holiday dates in writing? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| salgichawa wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| carpetdope wrote: |
| My VP has asked me to do a once-a-month 2 hour Saturday morning drama class in exchange for full days off during deskwarming. I thought it was a decent trade (getting an extra 10 or so days in the home country or wherever). Perhaps you could do something similar. |
Keep in mind though that your VP (or for that matter Principal) has only limited authority to allow this.
These forums are full of stories from teachers who thought they were getting extra days off (as they had negotiated with the VP/P) only to find the higher-ups in the Education Board said "No way". The VP/P can not overrule these folks...as the EB is the one in charge. |
Did they get their holiday dates in writing? |
Unless the Education Board was the one that signed off on it, it wouldn't matter. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Tell them they have to take you out for beef Kalbi and never ending soju. |
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I talked to my teacher today and said that since I'm working outside of normal business hours I'm entitled to overtime pay and she said of course and she would tell the accounting people to note my OT hours. So we'll see what happens...
Sometimes I wonder why you even have to go through the VP since they pretty much have no say in your days off. Why not just tell your co-teacher and then contact the education board? It would save a lot of effort. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Did they get their holiday dates in writing? |
Yes. I always get things in writing. That's why I was so upset when they reneged. And having to pay cancellation charges, without even a mention of helping me - well....... |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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i would have insisted them on paying for any changes to your travel schedule.
It was their fault. IF they don't pay. YOu don't work. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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i would have insisted them on paying for any changes to your travel schedule.
It was their fault. IF they don't pay. YOu don't work. |
And if you don't work, they toss you out, and you have no standing with labor relations, because you were the one going outside your contract. |
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