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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Funny to hear the 1960's broughtinto it: for the most part, a generation of whining, self indulgent hypocrites and sell outs. Yata is a shining example f this. At least back then the people were actually somewhat free though, too bad it was taken for granted. Government hadn't taken over every aspect of society yet.
Anyway, this is nothing like the 60's - it's worse by an order of magnitude. There has never been a time in American history where the government was corrupt enough to actually force people into buying services. Until now. I seriously doubt the public (with the exception of people like Yata, who would happily lick the bottom of the boot that's been stomping their face) will accept this - expect the Dems to get voted out en masse (not that the GOP will actually repeal anything, because they're all for it, despite the empty rhetoric). Obama has committed high treason.
Overall this health care bill is a complete catastrophe. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE "FREE" THING ABOUT IT! Every one of us will have to fork out thousands of dollars by law and if it is not paid, then the IRS will have the authority to enforce it at gunpoint. All the money will go to insurance companies and government bureaucracy, and we'll get thrown a few miserable crumbs in return. Quality of care will go down drastically (less money to go around for actual service and government regulation to keep it as low as possible to cut costs), and the government will then be free to infringe on every aspect of our lives in the name of health care. |
My vote for the year's most dramatic post!
You forgot to mention how in 2012 the earth will be torn apart by earthquakes and floods. The fact is, most people lack even the responsibility to buy their own healthcare--"It won't happen to me." But I hear you...the government shouldn't take away your right to be irresponsible by not insuring yourself.
You should have the right to get sick without any form of insurance whatsoever. You should have the right to submit your family to the danger of losing your home because you can't pay your medical bills. You should have the right to spend all of your money on liquor and not worry about costs associated with the POSSIBILITY of getting cirrhosis. How dare the government take those rights away! |
That's nice. I guess I'll give yours my vote for most hackneyed post (of the day that is - there's a million posts exactly like it throughout the year). Just the same old liberal POV, passing off as your own the mockery and sarcasm you watch on the media each night, or in Michael Moore films, thinking you're smarter than the rest of us. Reminds me of people who watch an episode of The Simpsons and think it's oh-so clever to rehash the jokes to their peers. Yawn.
Newsflash: everything you said is exactly correct, minus the sarcasm. I do have the right to pay my own bills, and not have to pay for someone else (even you, perhaps) who smokes 2 packs a day or drinks his liver to death. You're free to do as you please, so long as it doesn't infringe upon me. Nobody is entitled to another person's money unless it has been earned. How dare the government take our rights away?? Exactly the question! They dare because so many people love bowing down to authority. It's so much easier to be spineless and crack jokes than to take responsibility for your own life and liberty. |
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Easter Clark
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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There's no conspiracy. And you're going to be spending your tax dollars on someone else for something (hello roads and schools!)--get over it. Oh, you don't pay taxes in the US, do you? I don't know why there are so many people who scream "Take control!" "Pursue liberty!" "Down with the evil empire!" while munching their doritos and drinking pepsi. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, you conservatives are in the minority now--it's supposed to taste like a shit sandwich. Armchair conspiracy theorists and anti-government "activists"-- there's one in every crowd.  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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The $64 Billion Physician Cartel Got a Free Ride
1. According to a 2007 study by McKinsey Global Institute: "U.S. physicians are more highly paid than their counterparts in other developed countries. U.S. generalists make 4.1 times per capita GDP, compared with 2.8 times per capita GDP in other OECD countries. Across all U.S. physicians, higher earnings add $64 billion in costs to the U.S. system."
2. "How has the American Medical Association managed to get away with such princely remuneration that ordinary mortals in other professions�even ones such as law and engineering that also require arduous training�can only dream of? After all, in a functioning market, a profession offering such handsome returns would become a magnet for more people who, over time, would bid down "excess" wages.
But that's not how it has worked in medicine since 1910 when the Flexner report, commissioned by the AMA, declared that a surplus of substandard medical schools in the country were producing a surplus of substandard doctors. The AMA convinced lawmakers to shut down "deficient" medical schools, drastically paring back the supply of doctors almost 30 percent over 30 years. Few new medical schools have been allowed to open since the 1980s.
~Shikha Dalmia
3. There are 131 medical schools in the U.S. (data here), which is 21% fewer than the number of medical schools 100 years ago (166 medical schools, source), even though the U.S. population has increased by 300%.
By restricting the supply of medical schools and physicians, the AMA has "enforced cartel-like restrictions on entry that benefit physicians at the expense of consumers, and which have created significant barrier to effective, cost efficient health care."
4. Here's one recent example of the "AMA Cartel's" attempt to restrict competition:
NASHVILLE -- St. Jude Children's Research Hospital won unanimous state legislative approval to bring foreign-trained physicians onto its Memphis staff without the one- to three-year U.S. medical residencies required for a Tennessee medical license.
The bill won 97-0 approval in the House Thursday and it passed the Senate 33-0. Although it won unanimous approval, the Board of Medical Examiners voted in January to voice its opposition, out of concern it will open the door for other institutions to seek exemptions.
"While the board acknowledges and fully appreciates the wonderful work done at St. Jude, we are gravely concerned about the precedent-setting nature of the bill and thus unanimously oppose it. It is the board's view that should this well-intentioned legislation become law, it would open the door for any institution whose physicians cannot otherwise qualify for licensure ... (to) seek legislation that would create similar special licensure," the examiners' letter said.
5. And the AMA Cartel doesn't just want to restrict the supply of physicians, it also wants to resrict competition from other health care providers, like retail health clinics. For example:
MedPage Today -- Retail clinics first came on the scene in the middle of the last decade, and there are now some 1,200 of them operating in 32 states, according to the Convenient Care Association, a retail clinic trade association founded in 2006.
Not surprisingly, retail clinics have been targeted nearly from their inception by physician organizations, which charge that the clinics disrupt continuity of care and provide lower-quality care than physicians' offices or hospitals. In a 2006 policy statement, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) said flatly, "The AAP opposes [retail clinics] as an appropriate source of medical care for infants, children, and adolescents and strongly discourages their use, because the AAP is committed to the medical home model."
6. Another example: "Midwifery, once a robust industry in this country, has been virtually destroyed, thanks to the intense lobbying against it by the medical industry. In 1995, 36 states restricted or outright banned midwifery, even though studies have found that it delivers equally safe care at far lower prices than standard hospital births."
MP: The $64 billion estimate of higher health care costs resulting from excessive physician compensation in the U.S. is just part of the story. The AMA's agressive turf-protection against competition from retail clinics, midwives, pharmacists, and chiropractors have added additional medical costs that go way beyond just the $64 billion. In all of the discussions about health care costs and health care reform over the last year, the cartel power of physicians and their excessive compensation was barely metioned. |
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2010/03/64-billion-physician-cartel-got-free.html
Behind every distortion is some evil lobby. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| There's no conspiracy. And you're going to be spending your tax dollars on someone else for something (hello roads and schools!)--get over it. Oh, you don't pay taxes in the US, do you? I don't know why there are so many people who scream "Take control!" "Pursue liberty!" "Down with the evil empire!" while munching their doritos and drinking pepsi. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, you conservatives are in the minority now--it's supposed to taste like a shit sandwich. Armchair conspiracy theorists and anti-government "activists"-- there's one in every crowd. |
Yes there is a conspiracy, and it's easily verifiable and well documented. Basically if you haven't caught on to it by now then there's something really wrong with you (and if you require evidence, there's so much available that's it's hard to know where to even start - spoiled for choice). Of course a TV head like yourself would never take the time to look into things like the Federal Reserve, 9/11, or the globalist elite though - so much easier to just tune into the liberal media each day and smugly parrot their usual talking points while trying to sound clever. But I guess you really must be smarter than the average bear since you even know how to throw rolly-eye emoticons on at the end of your posts. Amazing.
As for taxes, most are unnecessary. Big government is a parasite and good for nothing except lying and stealing from the public. The government's job is supposed to be limited to upholding the constitution, but is now actually dismantling it and fast becoming a full blown tyranny. |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Easter Clark wrote: |
| There's no conspiracy. And you're going to be spending your tax dollars on someone else for something (hello roads and schools!)--get over it. Oh, you don't pay taxes in the US, do you? I don't know why there are so many people who scream "Take control!" "Pursue liberty!" "Down with the evil empire!" while munching their doritos and drinking pepsi. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, you conservatives are in the minority now--it's supposed to taste like a shit sandwich. Armchair conspiracy theorists and anti-government "activists"-- there's one in every crowd. |
Want some facts? You paraphrase one of Jon Stewart's untruths, as conservatives are not in the minority:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-29-health-poll_N.htm
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Obama's approval rating was 47%-50% � the first time his disapproval rating has hit 50%.
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There was a strong reaction against the tactics Democratic leaders used to pass the bill. A 53% majority call Democratic methods "an abuse of power;" 40% say they are appropriate.
And when asked about incidents of vandalism and threats that followed the bill's passage, Americans are more inclined to blame Democratic political tactics than critics' harsh rhetoric. |
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
Two words: Jimmy Carter. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Two words: Jimmy Carter. |
Three words for you: Iran Hostage Crisis
Two more: Ronald Reagan.
I don't foresee a repeat of the first happening, nor do I see any former actor turned GOP politician looking to run for Pres. in 2012.
The GOP is too much in turmoil, and too divided to come up with a legit challenger in 2012.
Of course it is only 2010, so maybe the GOP can get its act together OR maybe Obama's popularity will increase. In short, who knows... |
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Kimbop
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:58 am Post subject: |
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If his approval stays what it is now, he will still likely win. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: |
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/69436
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Obesity Rating for Every American Must Be Included in Stimulus-Mandated Electronic Health Records, Says HHS
(CNSNews.com) � New federal regulations issued this week stipulate that the electronic health records--that all Americans are supposed to have by 2014 under the terms of the stimulus law that President Barack Obama signed last year--must record not only the traditional measures of height and weight, but also the Body Mass Index: a measure of obesity.
The obesity-rating regulation states that every American's electronic health record must: �Calculate body mass index. Automatically calculate and display body mass index (BMI) based on a patient�s height and weight.�
The law also requires that these electronic health records be available--with appropriate security measures--on a national exchange. |
How ridiculous. The BMI is not useful. How long before the BMI is used to calculate health premiums.
How about a Samoan. Is his BMI comparable to a NE Asian? Height/weight. |
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