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Evildmn
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 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: Recommendations for Seoul schools |
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Hey guys, does anyone have any recommendations for schools in Seoul? I had one all geared up to go but just found out that they want to kick my arrival time back a month and that the pay isn't that great for a 2nd year teacher (2.1 million compared to the 2.4 I was making my first year)
I dealt with a lot of bull shit my first year so I'd like to go with a more reputable school.
Any suggestions? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendations for Seoul schools |
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| Evildmn wrote: |
Hey guys, does anyone have any recommendations for schools in Seoul? I had one all geared up to go but just found out that they want to kick my arrival time back a month and that the pay isn't that great for a 2nd year teacher (2.1 million compared to the 2.4 I was making my first year)
I dealt with a lot of bull shit my first year so I'd like to go with a more reputable school.
Any suggestions? |
Any qualifications?
Non-related BA/S.Sc and 1 year in a hakwon ?
B.Ed + field or M.A./M.Sc./M.Ed/M.TESOL?
Something in between?
Hakwon or real school?
This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions and the stupidest question to ask here.
Reputable school and (for the most part) hakwon don't belong in the same sentence together.
Expectations are so different between people (prospective teachers) and the dynamics of the schools change so drastically from year to year that the question is virtually impossible to answer.
Might as well ask, "How high is up?" |
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Captain Obvious
Joined: 23 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendations for Seoul schools |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Evildmn wrote: |
Hey guys, does anyone have any recommendations for schools in Seoul? I had one all geared up to go but just found out that they want to kick my arrival time back a month and that the pay isn't that great for a 2nd year teacher (2.1 million compared to the 2.4 I was making my first year)
I dealt with a lot of bull shit my first year so I'd like to go with a more reputable school.
Any suggestions? |
Any qualifications?
Non-related BA/S.Sc and 1 year in a hakwon ?
B.Ed + field or M.A./M.Sc./M.Ed/M.TESOL?
Something in between?
Hakwon or real school?
This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions and the stupidest question to ask here.
Reputable school and (for the most part) hakwon don't belong in the same sentence together.
Expectations are so different between people (prospective teachers) and the dynamics of the schools change so drastically from year to year that the question is virtually impossible to answer.
Might as well ask, "How high is up?" |
Bingo. |
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Evildmn
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well this doesn't really help me out  ... Are there any that aren't -as- bad as the others?
I already had a shitty experience with a private school but I got all the cash I was owed though I had to get the labor board to back me up before i got it. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Evildmn wrote: |
Well this doesn't really help me out ... Are there any that aren't -as- bad as the others?
I already had a shitty experience with a private school but I got all the cash I was owed though I had to get the labor board to back me up before i got it. |
Point is:
Schools change all the time... even what was a good school last year could be crap this year with changed staff or different academic director/head teacher.
Best bet:
a) Apply to a dozen ads that you think appeal to you.
b) wait for the response
c) READ THE CONTRACT - if it is fuzzy; walk away.
d) READ IT AGAIN - confirm details like extra work, NUMBER of classes (not just class hours), required prep/desk time/meetings
e) ASK about accomodation
f) ASK about location - close to shopping, easy bus/subway access, etc.
Talk to a foreign teacher and ask a few questions, get their e-mail.
g) e-mail them and ask POINTED questions that they can honestly answer when the boss is not standing over their shoulder.
THEN make your decision based on your previous experience and what you have learned during your interview with the school and e-mails.
Learn from your past bad experience and don't repeat the same mistakes that got you into it.
Failing all that, go home.
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Hauser
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Location: Vancouver, B.C. CANADA
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| so is it hard to get a hold of teachers that are working at these schools? i keep hearing that you should always talk to teachers first to see how they are treated |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Hauser wrote: |
| so is it hard to get a hold of teachers that are working at these schools? i keep hearing that you should always talk to teachers first to see how they are treated |
It is NOT hard and any decent school (private or hakwon) will let you speak to one or more of the foreigners on staff.
This is not always the case at a public school (who may have never had a foreigner before).
IF a hakwon won't let you speak to one of the FT... say no thank you and keep looking...
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