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burnt-toast
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Can they sink any lower? Maybe they had a reporter on the Cheonan.
Thanks, I'll be here all night.
Still remember how some Koreans were joking about V-Tech. |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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An idiotic article to say the least. There have been many ship/sub disasters that have received more attention than this Korean one. I bet, a lot of people remember the Kursk sinking. |
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Dr. Whom
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get the Times article. I thought the term "ground zero" referred
to where the atomic bombs the Americans dropped on Hiroshima and
Nagasaki detonated. So, did the Koreans rip it off from the World Trade
Centre bombing, or did the World Trade Centre Bombing people rip it
off from Oppenheimer and his crew? |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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There was a very, very similar sentiment in 2008 about Sungnyemun burning down.
Lives were lost in this one, so I understand the sadness. But to compare a military/naval accident with a horrifying premeditated attack is a bit much. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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The Korea Times wrote: |
Lee worked with the C.G. Jung Institute of New York as a psychoanalyst when the United States was in collective shock after the worst ever terrorist attack on American soil in 2001. |
So this qualifies her to compare the death of approx 3,500 people to the sinking of a boat?
The Korea Times wrote: |
Ground Zero in New York and the sunken warship in the West Sea of Korea are two very different catastrophic disasters, when it comes to the magnitude of victims and the nature of the incidents.
The former were terrorist attacks masterminded by Osama bin Laden, taking 2,751 innocent lives. The latter led to 46 South Korean sailors left missing. So far, what caused the ship to sink that night was not been explained. |
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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009 Location: earth
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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yeah terrorist attacks are pretty similar to blowing yourself up |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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thomas pars
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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seoulsucker wrote: |
to compare a military/naval accident with a horrifying premeditated attack is a bit much. |
But in the Korean psyche everything bad that happens is the fault of outsiders, indirectly or directly. They have been victimised by outside forces yet again. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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The difference between these two incidents is that the US attempted to go after those responsible for the 9/11 attacks while the Korean government is trying to cover it up and bury it in the fear that it would upset the North Koreans.
There is no parallel between the two.
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What's amazing is that AFROK could totally destroy the North's military capabilities on their own without the need for USFK assistance. Yet they afraid of losing foreign investment and their financial rating in the case of a war. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Close but still doesn't reach the Marianas Trench of the article that was pulled from the Weekly World News.
Remember the U.S.S. Thresher
and then there was the other one...I can't remember and I'm not going to Wiki it...
Before that the big one was the SS Sultana at the end of the Civil War. 1800 Union soldiers, mostly ex-POWs on their way home, are killed when the ship's boilers explode. Now that's a tragedy. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: |
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SR- I think you meant the USS Maine when it went down in Havana Harbor, which caused the US to declare war against Spain to start the Spanish-American War.
But again, Korea is too scared to retaliated for the loss of its sailors in one of the biggest naval incidents in a very long time because it is scared that it will negatively affect its financial standing.
Yes, then it becomes a parallel. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: |
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mc_jc wrote: |
SR- I think you meant the USS Maine when it went down in Havana Harbor, which caused the US to declare war against Spain to start the Spanish-American War.
But again, Korea is too scared to retaliated for the loss of its sailors in one of the biggest naval incidents in a very long time because it is scared that it will negatively affect its financial standing.
Yes, then it becomes a parallel. |
No there was another sub that went down...I just wikid it...It was the USS Scorpion.
But yeah if they had compared the Cheonan to the Maine that might have had a whiff of respectability to it. But 9/11??? Good Grief KT.
Actually the KT has reached a new low in the fact that this story was not a new low, which it should have been. |
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ashland
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:08 am Post subject: |
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mc_jc wrote: |
The difference between these two incidents is that the US attempted to go after those responsible for the 9/11 attacks while the Korean government is trying to cover it up and bury it in the fear that it would upset the North Koreans.
There is no parallel between the two.
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What's amazing is that AFROK could totally destroy the North's military capabilities on their own without the need for USFK assistance. Yet they afraid of losing foreign investment and their financial rating in the case of a war. |
you made a good point. the s.k. gov. has no guts when it's so obvious that the s.k. warship, cheonan, was attacked by a small n.k. submarine (more like a torpedo boat, undetectable). kim jung il ordered its navy to destroy a s.k. warship because a n.k. patrol boat was fired upon by a s.k. patrol boat for crossing the border called nll a couple of months ago. it's been a pattern that n.k. always retaliates. i feel sad that 46 young sailers, mostly born in 88, 89, 89, had to die in the freezing water.
btw, i like your avatar... he is so hot!!! |
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