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digiboy
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 Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: Slum areas in Busan or Seoul |
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Do Busan or Seoul have any lower class, slum areas like Mong Kok in Hong Kong, Dobstuen mae in Osaka or Longshan Temple in Taipei?
i'm a photographer interested in coming over.... |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry. You're not likely to find any cute, starving kids playing in the dirt in Korea. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| There's a section of Seoul called Itaewon with its nearby Haebangchon which might be what you're looking for. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Slum areas in Busan or Seoul |
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| digiboy wrote: |
Do Busan or Seoul have any lower class, slum areas like Mong Kok in Hong Kong, Dobstuen mae in Osaka or Longshan Temple in Taipei?
i'm a photographer interested in coming over.... |
Hi, I love Dobutsuen mae in Osaka!
While not quite as fun as that area, I stayed in a place near Yangpyung station in West Seoul...that was rather industrial with a lot of 1970s era single story buildings. you can probably find several older areas of Seoul like that - Guro with its "Chinatown" comes to mind as well. Northern Seoul, where I stay, (like around Suyu and a few stops south) there are wet markets / "shijang" all over which might interest you. Gireum is a bit analogous to Dobutsuen-mae in that it houses a large redlight district.
If you're out to photograph, as the writer Steve Kostecki put it, "neon and grime," you'll have plenty of opportunities. Just jump out of a subway stop, especially in northern seoul, and you should be set. Good luck. |
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lantana
Joined: 03 Apr 2009
Location: in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I would look into Dongducheon, parts of it can get pretty slummy, lots of abandoned buildings and general ugliness; no children playing in dirt though. |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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The area in behind the station at Cheongnyangri used to be pretty slummy, but primarily because of the enormous red light district. With the department store, etc., around there, that might have changed.
There seem to be some pretty rundown areas near the ports in Incheon as well. Maybe not slums though. |
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mcviking
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: 'Fantastic' America
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't seen a slum in Korea yet. But you could photograph endless miles of Hof, pc bang, samgyupsal place, church, barber pole. Listen and chant, ready begin! Hof, pc bang, samgyupsal place, church, barber pole! Hof, pc bang, samgyupsal place, church, barber pole! Kind of catchy and describes 90% of Korea. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Slum areas in Busan or Seoul |
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| digiboy wrote: |
Do Busan or Seoul have any lower class, slum areas like Mong Kok in Hong Kong, Dobstuen mae in Osaka or Longshan Temple in Taipei?
i'm a photographer interested in coming over.... |
When was the last you traveled in this part of the world? Last year I took a stroll through Mong Kok looking for what you are, I think I was some 15, or so, years too late.
Not sure what you'll see in Korea would be considered a destitute slums though. I think there are a few areas left in Korea, that do look the part. There is one area near a really nice place in Kangnam. If you go into the rural areas you'll see a lot of more rundown buildings. But you won't see naked kids playing the the sewer water. Although you might see some old grandma that refuses to move in with her son in some nicer building. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Slum areas in Busan or Seoul |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| digiboy wrote: |
Do Busan or Seoul have any lower class, slum areas like Mong Kok in Hong Kong, Dobstuen mae in Osaka or Longshan Temple in Taipei?
i'm a photographer interested in coming over.... |
When was the last you traveled in this part of the world? Last year I took a stroll through Mong Kok looking for what you are, I think I was some 15, or so, years too late.
Not sure what you'll see in Korea would be considered a destitute slums though. I think there are a few areas left in Korea, that do look the part. There is one area near a really nice place in Kangnam. If you go into the rural areas you'll see a lot of more rundown buildings. But you won't see naked kids playing the the sewer water. Although you might see some old grandma that refuses to move in with her son in some nicer building. |
i dunno why you guys keep talking about naked children playing in dirt/sewers. some kind of fetish around here? that's seriously the third time someone put those words into his mouth.
obviously he didn't see that in JAPAN either - not even osaka, not even dobutsuen-mae. i think he wants to see some rundown/dilapidated buildings, working class neighborhoods. perhaps slum is a misnomer - but that is what the japanese call dobutsuen-mae. lower class doesn't mean destitute.
of course, if he really has a homeless fetish (who was that guy who made a hobby of taking pics of homeless guys?) he could just go to seoul station. |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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LOL slums in Korea! That's a good one. Can't say I've seen people living in squalor/in shacks. Those crappy old apartment blocks are just full of single mums and English teachers, hardly describe it as somewhere where homeless people go to etch out a living.
I moved in Busan recently. I'm now "amongst the real people" meaning narrow back streets, awful architecture, spitting grandmothers, but hardly a slum. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Out here in Lake Wobegon I see shacks where the farmers occasionally spend the night. Some are equipped with television sets. They're out the fields. I suppose they wake up, get a rinse-off in the river, and then head back to the field to finish planting. You can look out the window of a cereal box here and see it.
Lots of buildings in the smaller cities haven't seen a coat of paint since the war, but they're perfectly serviceable, and can be sold to Lotte or Samsung or Woobang, or whoever at a ridiculously high profit. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
Out here in Lake Wobegon I see shacks where the farmers occasionally spend the night. Some are equipped with television sets. They're out the fields. I suppose they wake up, get a rinse-off in the river, and then head back to the field to finish planting. You can look out the window of a cereal box here and see it.
Lots of buildings in the smaller cities haven't seen a coat of paint since the war, but they're perfectly serviceable, and can be sold to Lotte or Samsung or Woobang, or whoever at a ridiculously high profit. |
In my neighborhood a lot of the small "supers'" owners eat and sleep within their store. i kinda feel bad when they rouse from their bed (which takes up 1/5 of the floor space) to ring up my beer. |
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rkc76sf
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| There's a section of Seoul called Itaewon with its nearby Haebangchon which might be what you're looking for. |
I can't forget 10 years ago taking the bus into Seoul along the Han river near Hannam-dong (or close to it). Right from the expressway on the river you could see some real slums and squalor, it was pretty obvious and looked really rundown and gray. However, with all the development in Seoul the last ten years, they've razed alot of those places and built modern apartments. Anyway, if you're looking for slums in Seoul, you're probably about ten years too late. There are plenty of old houses in the countryside, but not what that you see in the movie Slumdog millionaire. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
| In my neighborhood a lot of the small "supers'" owners eat and sleep within their store. i kinda feel bad when they rouse from their bed (which takes up 1/5 of the floor space) to ring up my beer. |
I know a guy out here who works a job all day, tends his supa all night. He's got the coming-home-drunk crowd around 3am, and that's about it. If you can handle it, it might be a nice life. |
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Manuel_the_Bandito
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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What constitutes a slum - piles of rubbish on the streets? Drunks sleeping on the streets? Substance abuse going on at all hours of the day? Brothels and houses of ill-repute all over the place?
If so, I can think of a few areas. |
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