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bobbybigfoot
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 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: Teacher's College + CELTA. Need advice |
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Most likely I will be attending Teacher's College this year (primary grades). I"m wondering if it's a waste of time/money to get a CELTA-YL (young learners) as well. I'm not entirely sure of where I want to teach but I do want to have as many options as possible.
I have three years teaching experience here in Korea. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Since CELTA is an initial qualification for people with little or no previous teaching experience, you'll likely be fine with your teachers college certification alone. If you find you want to focus on ESL or kids, you may be able to take additional qualification courses with your teachers college instead of the CELTA-TEYL. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Caffeinated wrote: |
| Since CELTA is an initial qualification for people with little or no previous teaching experience, you'll likely be fine with your teachers college certification alone. If you find you want to focus on ESL or kids, you may be able to take additional qualification courses with your teachers college instead of the CELTA-TEYL. |
This pretty much sums up what I did. CELTA is around $2000, whereas the extra qualification course I did was less than $1000 and I did not have to redo another practicum (and as someone who has taught ESL for almost 10 years, that would have been another waste of my time). |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Caffeinated wrote: |
| Since CELTA is an initial qualification for people with little or no previous teaching experience, you'll likely be fine with your teachers college certification alone. |
 Of the dozen who took the CELTA when I did, only one didn't have at least a year of ESL experience. At the same time, the teacher with the most experience, a high school teacher with 16 years experience was heading to fail so he withdrew saying he'll re-take it again (hard to teach old dogs new tricks).
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| I'm not entirely sure of where I want to teach but I do want to have as many options as possible. |
All the more reason to get the CELTA or CELTYL. It helps. Add more tools to your toolchest (the method they teach is just that, A method, useful but not everything, a skillset).
It's only one bloody month (long and intense and fun - clear your calendar, there's a lot to do and it IS challenging. I did it after two years ESL teaching in Korea). You won't regret it. |
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Scott in Incheon
Joined: 30 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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The CELTA is not the best tool to add to your tool chest. The OP will get 12 weeks of practicum when they do their B'Ed, so the extra six/eight hours of practicum that CELTA offers is not going to teach them that much more.
Plus, if the poster is Canadian, then the CELTA will not get them recognized by TESOL Canada or other provincial bodies. It doesn't have enough practicum. The B'Ed alone also won't get you certified by these bodies but if you take an AQ in ESL then you can get certified by TESOL Canada.
If you can of course, try to get AQ courses for middle and high school as well. This would help when you look for work. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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The CELTA is not the best tool to add to your tool chest. The OP will get 12 weeks of practicum when they do their B'Ed, so the extra six/eight hours of practicum that CELTA offers is not going to teach them that much more.
Plus, if the poster is Canadian, then the CELTA will not get them recognized by TESOL Canada or other provincial bodies. It doesn't have enough practicum. The B'Ed alone also won't get you certified by these bodies but if you take an AQ in ESL then you can get certified by TESOL Canada.
If you can of course, try to get AQ courses for middle and high school as well. This would help when you look for work. |
This isn't quite right. TESOL Canada does recognize the CELTA as it fulfills the required 20 hour practicum (10 direct observation, 10 supervised). However, I do believe that the CELTA must be completed in Canada at accredited institutions. That said, I did my CELTA in Thailand several years ago and TESOL Canada accepted it with some additional documentation, so look into that. TESOL Ontario requires higher practicum hours (30 hours of observation and 20 hours of teaching), but the CELTA will give you advanced standing at accredited TESOL Ontario institutions such as the University of Saskatchewan.
I can see the logic of doing a CELTA or the young learners extension prior to teaching overseas, but if you are going to teachers college, you should be able to get the required courses done there. They will be taught from an ESL point of view rather than an EFL point of view, if that is important to you. |
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Scott in Incheon
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TESOL Canada recognizes those CELTA programs that have upped their observed hours. If the CELTA you are taking has the normal 6 hours of supervised teaching then that is not enough.
Quickly looking down the list of approved courses for TESOL Canada, there are only a couple of CELTA courses listed. |
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