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milkofsteinbeck
Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: Teaching rural or in the city? |
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| Hey just wondering if anyone had any advice on choosing between teaching in a rural area or in a city. I'm definitely not a big crowds person and teaching in a quiet, natural setting sounds appealing, but I hear you are more likely to be isolated(only English speaker there). Are there any teachers in country that could tell what's it's like? Thanks. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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I just finished a contract with three country schools, named Mysan, Bongsan, and Gawhe.
Here is the up side:
The classes were small.
Most of the classes were in the single digits.
In one school, they had to combine the third and fourth grades, and they were still in the single digits.
I wasn't isolated from other gringos.
They put all the gringos in the same apartment building in the county seat.
All the other teachers worked either in the county seat or in other country schools.
Here is the down side:
Some of the homeroom teachers were in the classroom when you didn't want them.
Like most Korean teachers, they made certain that the entire class would not be conducted in English.
On the other hand, some of the homeroom teachers were NOT in the classroom when you DIDN'T want them.
At Bongsan, the fifth and sixth grade classes were full of hooligans.
The teachers in those two classes left me to handle the class by myself.
In each school, a so-called co-teacher, who is proficient in English, will be appointed.
A better name would be anti-teacher.
At Bongsan, nobody wanted the job.
At Myosan, the so-called co-teacher never spoke to me except when someone had a complaint about me.
At Gahwe, the anti-teacher was a shrewd manipulator. He was the sixth grade teacher. At the end of the year, the sixth grade, the students take a big exam. Two weeks before the exam, he started to worry about the exam scores, so he decided to use me as a scapegoat. This resulted in a conference with him and the principal.
I never did find out why my contract wasn't renewed.
It could be from malicious backbiting and politicking 'most anywhere in any of those three schools.
This petty squabbling takes place in public schools all over Korea, though, so I would say that city schools share most of the disadvantages. |
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Dr. Whom
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I was scanning a few older posts. This guy Cohiba seemed to have
summed it up nicely:
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.
I, unfortunately, live near Seoul where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know! |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: Re: Teaching rural or in the city? |
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| milkofsteinbeck wrote: |
| Hey just wondering if anyone had any advice on choosing between teaching in a rural area or in a city. I'm definitely not a big crowds person and teaching in a quiet, natural setting sounds appealing, but I hear you are more likely to be isolated(only English speaker there). Are there any teachers in country that could tell what's it's like? Thanks. |
I wouldn't recommend living in the countryside unless you have a fair amount of Korean. Another thing, the countryside in Korea is not idyllic like it is in other countries as environmental devastation has hit almost everywhere there.
Ramp up the xenophobia by a factor of 10 compared to Seoul and it doesn't make for a pleasant experience.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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chellovek

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| I live in the countryside. It's ok. Don't worry. |
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milkofsteinbeck
Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone,
Thank you for the replies-I was expecting an email to let me know if someone had responded to my topic and nothing came-so sorry for the delayed response.
It seems like a mixed review on working in a rural area, but then again everything in Korea seems like a mixed review. I would like to strike a middle ground(still have some nature around, have some city, and expatriates) between Seoul and living on a farm.
Can anyone tell me about Pusan, Gwangju, or the other big cities as possible alternatives to Seoul?
By the way that FFF(Foreign Fun Factor) scale is great. |
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milkofsteinbeck
Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Wooops sorry. FFF rule=Fun for foreigners. |
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PeteMoses
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I live in the countryside, and wouldn't consider living anywhere else. The xenophobia/closed culture arguments are way off as far as I'm concerned. You just have to learn to interact with people in the country, rather than blindly ignoring the masses in the cities. In my opinion, anyway, this is what living in another country is all about. Up to you of course, but I recommend the country. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Whom wrote: |
I was scanning a few older posts. This guy Cohiba seemed to have
summed it up nicely:
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell Cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things. Also clubs such
as photography, drama, public speaking, sailing are 99% in
the capital city. If you want to experiment with a very Korean
culture, which unfortunately means "closed", then choose the
countryside. If you want to make money and have the lifestyle
choices similar to a western country, then there is no other
choice than Seoul.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.
I, unfortunately, live near Seoul where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know! |
Unfortunately this rule is wrong. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Unfortunately this rule is wrong. |
I always thought it was stupid, preaches ignorance.
But it does reflect accurately the attitude of some waygook Seoul dwellers. |
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