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Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus?
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Do you / would you give your seat for an old Korean person on a bus?
Yes (always / almost always) - I respect Korean custom / I am a very kind person.
43%
 43%  [ 30 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on my mood.
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on how old / frail the person looks.
37%
 37%  [ 26 ]
No (It's my seat and I'll sit down if I want to)
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I act innocent / give a blank stare / avoid eye contact)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I pretend to sleep)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
I never use Korean buses.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other (Please explain)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 69

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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus? Reply with quote

In Korean society we should respect older people (as we should in any other country in my opinion - not that it always works that way) and in some cases defer to them. This is supposed to extend to giving up your seat on the bus...

So do you / would give up your seat? Explain your answers please...
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always stand unless the bus is really empty. It avoids the whole conundrum of giving up seats.
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, for a real oldy on a crowded bus. I'd do the same back home.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, it's not just a Korean custom you know.......anyone with decent manners would do the same thing where I'm from (Britain/Ireland).
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mom taught me to do this at home. I also give up my seat for pregnant women or moms with very young kids, so they can sit with the tots on their laps. This may be Korean custom, but it's just kindness where I come from.

If, however, an older woman is wearing high heels, she can stand.

Old, weak, or burdened people (not counting parcels) should always be given a seat. Back home, whenever I gave up a seat for an elderly or pregnant woman, I'd be sure to stand right by a young man and stare him down. Sure, it's aggressive, but back home it's acceptable. Smile
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Eh, it's not just a Korean custom you know.......anyone with decent manners would do the same thing where I'm from (Britain/Ireland).


Amen to that. I always stand up if the bus is full and if someone considerably older, obviously disabled, pregnant, or with kids gets on.
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ticktocktocktick



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try not to sit in the old folks seats to start with. If it's someone who is glaring/gawping at me for the seat, then I'll be stubborn and not move. If they have a more polite look on their face, then I'll stand. The exception is when I've been walking for a long time, I'm likely to look away (I have flat feet).

On the subway it's every man for himself!
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daemyann



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unreasonable not to, barring rare exceptions.

That said, it bothers me when there is little to no appreciation shown, and/or a strong sense of expectation.

I should, because it makes sense, and so I do so happily.

However, that's a long way from a mandate.


Edit: Talking about the non-reserved seats. I never sit in the reserved ones.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus? Reply with quote

ABC KID wrote:
In Korean society we should respect older people (as we should in any other country in my opinion - not that it always works that way) and in some cases defer to them. This is supposed to extend to giving up your seat on the bus...

So do you / would give up your seat? Explain your answers please...


What is with this..."In Korean society we should respect older people."
Name me one country where the elderly are not respected. Name one country that folks don't give it up for the elderly.
Korea is no different from any other country in this respect...having traveled the world and been on my fair share of busses, I have seen in over 30 countries, seats given up for another who needed it.

I look at it like this....I "paid for the seat" and I'll sit in it and I don't give it up unless all other seats are taken and the person really needs it... they are older, frail, an obvious pregnant woman, etc.
Now, obviously, said person had to pass many koreans who were sitting down before they got to me...why then did a korean not give up their seat before the person got to me?
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is common decency to give up your seat to the elderly or infirm. However, for some reason, giving seats up to little kids really irks me.
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annuayim



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Midwest

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Eh, it's not just a Korean custom you know.......anyone with decent manners would do the same thing where I'm from (Britain/Ireland).


Agreed. This is also custom in the United States as well (was raised by a Midwestern mother groomed within a Southern family).
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep....

Elderly, pregnant, infirm or a pretty girl...
Just as i do back home...except the pretty girl part.
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Eh, it's not just a Korean custom you know.......anyone with decent manners would do the same thing where I'm from (Britain/Ireland).


Amen to that.

OP: where are you from? Does your country not show respect to older people? That's rather sad.

I gave an old lady my seat on the subway today, not because I am in Korea but because it's good manners.

Quote:
giving seats up to little kids really irks me.


I think the reasoning might be so they don't fall down or, if the train is busy, get crushed by adults.
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus? Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
ABC KID wrote:
In Korean society we should respect older people (as we should in any other country in my opinion - not that it always works that way) and in some cases defer to them. This is supposed to extend to giving up your seat on the bus...

So do you / would give up your seat? Explain your answers please...


What is with this..."In Korean society we should respect older people."
Name me one country where the elderly are not respected. Name one country that folks don't give it up for the elderly.
Korea is no different from any other country in this respect...having traveled the world and been on my fair share of busses, I have seen in over 30 countries, seats given up for another who needed it.

I look at it like this....I "paid for the seat" and I'll sit in it and I don't give it up unless all other seats are taken and the person really needs it... they are older, frail, an obvious pregnant woman, etc.
Now, obviously, said person had to pass many koreans who were sitting down before they got to me...why then did a korean not give up their seat before the person got to me?


+1

Koreans respect their elders, therefore no one else does. Korea has 4 seasons, so by the same logic nowhere else does. I like the last point, too. For every foreigner on the bus not giving up their seat there are at least 20 Koreans.
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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always willing to give up my seat, but as with holding doors open, the older people here don't often want to accept it - too proud or something.
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