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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should all read Michael Pollen's "In Defense of Food."

Seems like the more you worry about being clean and healthy, the more sick you get. I'm a slob, but I'm not sick very much. I think I was exposed to everything under the sun as a kid and so am pretty healthy because of it.

To the poster who boils their bottled water...you must be miserable. Try slowly weening yourself onto tap water and you'd probably be better off.

The guy above me knows what's up. Eat real god....spinach is great. And eat you kimchi!!! The bacteria in it is good for you.

I'm calling bullshit on this one:

"The Korean diet has almost double the sodium to an average Western healthy diet."

The "Western healthy" diet? That's an oxymoron. The average western diet is the most unhealthy in the world.
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Bloopity Bloop



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeMayonnaise wrote:


The "Western healthy" diet? That's an oxymoron. The average western diet is the most unhealthy in the world.


Maybe he/she should have phrased it healthy Western diet. As in, if someone were to eat healthily in the West, it would be far healthier than the typical Korean diet--which is undoubtedly true.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A few things that I do that helps me remain healthy are: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
A few things that I do that helps me remain relatively healthy are:

-Boil water- even the bottled water- I tend to boil it about 50% of what I take in. Even with bottled water- you never know.

-Careful using 1 liter water bottles over and over again. Bacteria can form in them. Wash them in hot soapy water, rinse them and leave them to drip dry.

-Take some vitamines. I find them very helpful. I take Centrum, Vitamines B, C,....etc.

- When drinking soju or other alchohol- NEVER take a used glass from another person and drink out of it. USE YOUR OWN GLASS!! It's not rude, it's just safe.

- I usually am willing to share denjang chigee (soy bean stew) with my wife and friends- but I'm not sure if I'm taking a dumb pill here. Some Koreans seem to think it's safe. What do you think?

At fast food rest. I tend to order a "custom made" burger (extra- pickles or something), that way I'm sure that it hasn't been sitting around for a dog's age. Same with fries- I make sure they're hot. If not, exchange them. (More personal preference more than anything else.)

About the spaggetti- depending on the sauce- sometimes spagetti sauce can be a "richer" sort of food. It may explain why you have that "lead feeling". Be careful where you buy your ground beef. Sometimes it may be better to use beef imported from the USA (at the Hannam food market). It may be a good idea.

-Drink lots of (non-alchoholic) liquids. Many here are dehydrated- especially this time of year. A Braun blender is awesome for making real fruit shakes with soya milk & crushed ice. Very healthy indeed.

-Get a humidifier. It's made a world of difference for us!

Get adequate amounts of sleep. Many who are here between 27 and 37 go through changes, where it's no longer easy to pull an "all nighter" like it was back in university. Our bodies are changing and we aren't as flexible as we once were. Be aware of these changes. Remember, many in Korea "play very hard". Pace yourselves.

-Hit the sauna once or twice a week. Get the scrape, scrub and massage. It's very therapeutic!

-If you spend lots of time in a computer chair, then get yourself an "Obus Form" - they really make a difference to your back.

-Take good care of your feet. A pedicure can make a change in your whole demeanure.

-Try to order food with red pepper past on the side. That way you can mix it in according to tast.

-Don't eat pork more than once or twice per week at the most. It can really make you feel crappy.

-Exersize regularly. (I'm one to talk- I know- time to hit the gymn.)

-Take care of yourself and no your limits.

I would like to see what others have to add.

The above are a few things that I personally find helpful. I'm not a doctor, so this isn't a perscription, but rather, just emptying the pebles from my pockets, they're the music of my soul.
Thanks for listening.
Harpeau
Excellent list!!!
I would like to add that when you go to the store, limit yourself to 1 glutton item. For example, when i buy food, it usually consists of rice, meats, veggies, corn, beans, mandu, and ramen. I don't snack, except for the occasional Snickers Dark which I buy 1 of for the week. but otherwise no chips or stuff like that. if I am hungry later in the evening I will work on some leftover dinner or just have an apple. Try to limit your junk food. lastly, I only buy water and sometimes orange juice, never soda, never alcohol. If i want to drink, I'll go to a bar or have a beer at a restaurant. Less temptation leads to less bad eating which leads to better feeling throughout the day.
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
DeMayonnaise wrote:


The "Western healthy" diet? That's an oxymoron. The average western diet is the most unhealthy in the world.


Maybe he/she should have phrased it healthy Western diet. As in, if someone were to eat healthily in the West, it would be far healthier than the typical Korean diet--which is undoubtedly true.


The typical traditional Korean diet or the typical modern ramen-filled Korean diet? I don't think it's a given that a healthy diet in the US is better than here. You can eat healthy here just as easily as back home.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: A few things that I do that helps me remain healthy are: Reply with quote

balzor wrote:
Harpeau wrote:
A few things that I do that helps me remain relatively healthy are:

-Boil water- even the bottled water- I tend to boil it about 50% of what I take in. Even with bottled water- you never know.

-Careful using 1 liter water bottles over and over again. Bacteria can form in them. Wash them in hot soapy water, rinse them and leave them to drip dry.

-Take some vitamines. I find them very helpful. I take Centrum, Vitamines B, C,....etc.

- When drinking soju or other alchohol- NEVER take a used glass from another person and drink out of it. USE YOUR OWN GLASS!! It's not rude, it's just safe.

- I usually am willing to share denjang chigee (soy bean stew) with my wife and friends- but I'm not sure if I'm taking a dumb pill here. Some Koreans seem to think it's safe. What do you think?

At fast food rest. I tend to order a "custom made" burger (extra- pickles or something), that way I'm sure that it hasn't been sitting around for a dog's age. Same with fries- I make sure they're hot. If not, exchange them. (More personal preference more than anything else.)

About the spaggetti- depending on the sauce- sometimes spagetti sauce can be a "richer" sort of food. It may explain why you have that "lead feeling". Be careful where you buy your ground beef. Sometimes it may be better to use beef imported from the USA (at the Hannam food market). It may be a good idea.

-Drink lots of (non-alchoholic) liquids. Many here are dehydrated- especially this time of year. A Braun blender is awesome for making real fruit shakes with soya milk & crushed ice. Very healthy indeed.

-Get a humidifier. It's made a world of difference for us!

Get adequate amounts of sleep. Many who are here between 27 and 37 go through changes, where it's no longer easy to pull an "all nighter" like it was back in university. Our bodies are changing and we aren't as flexible as we once were. Be aware of these changes. Remember, many in Korea "play very hard". Pace yourselves.

-Hit the sauna once or twice a week. Get the scrape, scrub and massage. It's very therapeutic!

-If you spend lots of time in a computer chair, then get yourself an "Obus Form" - they really make a difference to your back.

-Take good care of your feet. A pedicure can make a change in your whole demeanure.

-Try to order food with red pepper past on the side. That way you can mix it in according to tast.

-Don't eat pork more than once or twice per week at the most. It can really make you feel crappy.

-Exersize regularly. (I'm one to talk- I know- time to hit the gymn.)

-Take care of yourself and no your limits.

I would like to see what others have to add.

The above are a few things that I personally find helpful. I'm not a doctor, so this isn't a perscription, but rather, just emptying the pebles from my pockets, they're the music of my soul.
Thanks for listening.
Harpeau
Excellent list!!!
I would like to add that when you go to the store, limit yourself to 1 glutton item. For example, when i buy food, it usually consists of rice, meats, veggies, corn, beans, mandu, and ramen. I don't snack, except for the occasional Snickers Dark which I buy 1 of for the week. but otherwise no chips or stuff like that. if I am hungry later in the evening I will work on some leftover dinner or just have an apple. Try to limit your junk food. lastly, I only buy water and sometimes orange juice, never soda, never alcohol. If i want to drink, I'll go to a bar or have a beer at a restaurant. Less temptation leads to less bad eating which leads to better feeling throughout the day.


Haha, this list is retarded. Boiling bottled water? Be anal retentive when eating out with work mates? Tempt fast food workers to spit in your order? Don't eat pork?(which if you do five minutes of research you will find is completely safe and healthy, as are all animal fats).

Then you tell people you don't eat junk you stick to rice, corn, beans, mandu or ramen. All empty carbs or refined junk!
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeMayonnaise wrote:

The typical traditional Korean diet or the typical modern ramen-filled Korean diet? I don't think it's a given that a healthy diet in the US is better than here. You can eat healthy here just as easily as back home.


I'd still give it to the States versus a traditional Korean diet. White rice already puts Korea behind in this regard. It's hard to find even wheat bread here, let alone wheat pasta. I can't find tuna canned in water here. The list goes on for me. When you actually are able to find this stuff, better brace your wallet.

In any case, I think we'll end up disagreeing about what "healthy" is, though. For most peoples' definitions of healthy, it's not hard to eat healthily here, but for my definition of healthy, it's difficult. I have a much more restrictive definition of the word--probably closer to an athlete's. There's just a vastly larger amount of healthy options available back home. Most people just don't take advantage.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
DeMayonnaise wrote:

The typical traditional Korean diet or the typical modern ramen-filled Korean diet? I don't think it's a given that a healthy diet in the US is better than here. You can eat healthy here just as easily as back home.


I'd still give it to the States versus a traditional Korean diet. White rice already puts Korea behind in this regard. It's hard to find even wheat bread here, let alone wheat pasta. I can't find tuna canned in water here. The list goes on for me. When you actually are able to find this stuff, better brace your wallet.

In any case, I think we'll end up disagreeing about what "healthy" is, though. For most peoples' definitions of healthy, it's not hard to eat healthily here, but for my definition of healthy, it's difficult. I have a much more restrictive definition of the word--probably closer to an athlete's. There's just a vastly larger amount of healthy options available back home. Most people just don't take advantage.


Seconded. If you're lucky enough to have a Homeplus nearby, I recommend loading up on brown rice and black barley. I pack a thermos full of it every day. Sometimes they call me "Wellbeing Teacher," but are always happy to sample whatever I've packed.

On a side note, if you don't have the time to make momil (soba/buckwheat) or dotori (acorn) noodles, you can get instant nangmyeon (not ridiculously healthy, but better than plain wheat) and just skip the sauces that come with them, opting for either a fish broth or, in my case, tomato sauce. There is also "lo-cal" ramyeon, in which the noodles aren't fried. It takes a little longer to cook (about 2 minutes more) but you can still make it healthy if you skip the powder pouch and use a different broth or sauce.

I do miss cottage cheese and brazil nuts, though...
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a Korean ever offers to take you out for 홍어 (Hong Eo) don't.. just don't
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zz8w1988



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

korean diet composes mostly of kimchi and over spicy stuff. I read some many websites that said radish kimchi and bean paste soup can lead to stomach cancer.
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allovertheplace



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean diet is not healthier! Yeah, Canada and the US are full of overweight people but not Italy, France, South America etc.

If the diet was so healthy why do so many people have stomach cancer-besides stress.

Portion size is the key, if you eat 38 lbs of rice its still 38 lbs of rice. Snack, but make it small. Oh, and take a walk one in a while.

Oh, and I liked the list.
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Troglodyte



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beebee wrote:
Avoid McDonalds, KFC and Burger King - they're really not good for your health.


That's not something specific to Korea though.

I worked at a KFC and a McD's when i was a kid. A few decades later, I can now once again eat vat fried chicken, but to this day, I still can't eat a fast food burger. If I go to McD's with friends I just get a milkshakes or ice cream.

The irony of it is that in my day I've also worked at some really classy restaurants and what goes on behind the scenes is sometimes not a pretty sight.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackSarang wrote:

I eat street vendor food all the time.. but I don't really recommend it, its all garbage, deep fried or meat of dubious quality.


mykrobb wrote:
basically anything sold on the street is a gamble.


If you eat at a cheap restaurant (including fast food places) THAT is a gamble. You have no idea what they are doing back in the kitchen. You also don't know how long that food was sitting under a heat lamp.

With the street vendors, you can see them cook it right there. Anything that spends 5 minutes in boiling oil or that you can see being roasted in a fire, is a safe bet. That fact that it's sold on the sidewalk is not a problem. The air may be filthy, dusty and polluted, but you're already breathing it anyway. One thing that any experienced traveller will tell you about eating in third world countries (ya, i know, Korea isn't 3rd world) is that you really need to see your food being cooked. If you can't see it being cooked, be sure to ask for something special so that they can't just pass you something half cooked or that has been warmed up in the microwave.

If a street vendor is just keeping stuff warm under a heat lamp, you can see it --> don't eat that.


JackSarang wrote:

Ham as they call it here is SPAM. Its not Ham as we know it. It is quite literally SPAM or its varients, they love that crap over here and its included in a variety of dishes. Also some trivia, Koreans generally don't consider Ham/Spam a meat. So if you're Veggie and ask for no meat you'll still get Ham if its part of the dish.


Has anyone ever verified that spam contains meat? I always just assumed that spam is Soylent red.
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Troglodyte



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only food that I really wouldn't recommend to most people is the ray (sting ray or something like that). It's an acquired taste for some people, but you really have to stick with it to acquire a taste for it. Like shark it's absolutely full of ammonium. So much in fact that they have to let it rot in a jar for the better part of a year so that the ammonium can break down or leak out of it to a point where it's not toxic. But still, it reeks like urine or industrial cleaners. If you are really curious and can stomach the smell of it, then by all means taste a piece of it. But if you've never tried it before don't order a plate of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
The only food that I really wouldn't recommend to most people is the ray (sting ray or something like that). It's an acquired taste for some people, but you really have to stick with it to acquire a taste for it. Like shark it's absolutely full of ammonium. So much in fact that they have to let it rot in a jar for the better part of a year so that the ammonium can break down or leak out of it to a point where it's not toxic. But still, it reeks like urine or industrial cleaners. If you are really curious and can stomach the smell of it, then by all means taste a piece of it. But if you've never tried it before don't order a plate of it.


There is literally no Korean food I won't eat, except for hong oh and bibimbap.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean home cooking is way healthier than western home cooking.

For starters, white rice is usually only eaten out (in fast food restaurants like kimbap nara), in the home Koreans combine rice, nuts and pulses, veggies in the rice cooker - making a very healthy rice bowl, unless they are in a hurry, in that case it will be ramen or white rice.

Traditionally rice is always served with soup - whilst eating out this soup can be spicy or salty or contain what some claim to be 'dirty' meat. In the home the soup will be full of vegetables, be very brothy and have either good meat or a very small amount of meat. Usually it's neither too salty nor spicy. Banchan or side dishes in the home are nearly always veggies or pulses/nuts and are very healthy, yes there is kimchi, but not too much and the home variety is mostly, less salty/spicy than usual.

Home cooking has a lot of color and variety here, all healthy, compared to the west with way too much bread and pasta, ultra reliance on cheese, cream and in my opinion less flavor. If you like cream pasta or meat and two veg that's fine, but it is NOT more healthy than homemade chu-o-tang and ya-chae-bap.

If you are eatingout, then wherever you are, the US, Korea, the UK or anywhere it WILL BE unhealthy and too salty, too fatty.

Make the effort here and you can cook anything from your country of origin, combine the healthy aspects of that with the healthy home cooking here and you will be perfectly healthy.

Of course it will be less fun than eating out, but it will be healthier. Evil or Very Mad
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